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'Sterling Silver' rose Reviews & Comments
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Telegraph Delivery Spirit, 23(2): 36 (1956)
Hybridizing Roses By Gladys Fisher
Arnold-Fisher Co. Woburn, Mass
ROSES, old and new, are the most fascinating flowers in the world, to write about as well as to work with in hybridizing for new varieties.
As hybridizer for the Arnold-Fisher Company of Woburn, Massachusetts, I use many of the old favorites in my quest for roses of greater beauty and more desirable characteristics.
Beauty, form and true color are the first requirements of a rose, for without these, a rose seldom comes to the attention of the hybridizer. Once his interest is aroused, he tests the rose for the following—texture of petal; strong stem and neck; beauty of leaves; thornlessness; twenty-five or more petals; productivity; disease resistance and keeping qualities.
Two of the roses that have been patented by the Arnold-Fisher Company and recently introduced as greenhouse roses are "Sterling Silver" and "Capri."
"Sterling Silver" is so named because it has been adopted by the Sterling Silversmiths Guild of America.
"Sterling Silver" — a true lavender hybrid tea — has to be seen to be believed. Only when one has been able to touch its firm petals, enjoy its wonderfully sweet perfume, does one realize that it is real, and a breathtakingly new color has come to the rose world.
This newcomer has a long high-centered bud and opens to a perfect whorl. It has twenty-five to thirty-five lavender petals, overlayed with a satiny silver; stems practically thornless; strong stem and neck; large semi-glossy leaves and is a good keeper.
Peace, the most famous of all garden roses, is the female parent of "Sterling Silver". Though this new lavender rose inherits the wonderful vigor of Peace, its constant blooming habit comes from the male parent of mixed ancestry, including Rapture, Better Times and Pink Delight.
This beautiful rose was introduced at the Sterling Silver Rose Tournament held on June twentieth and twenty-first. Flower arrangers from all over the United States competed for a five thousand dollar Sterling Silver Rose trophy and eight valuable Sterling Silver containers donated by the Sterling Silversmiths Guild. From the many competitors on June twentieth, eight finalists were chosen who were given a Sterling Silver container.
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None of us can, Karl. Actually Jedmar put a comment on the Q&A nine days ago to you:
“Karl, the links to publications are not working since yesterday (new references)”.
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I just "discovered" a rose in my garden simply because it has a bloom. I have not taken any extra care of it except for irrigation of that bed. I dug around the base and found the tag saying it's Sterling Silver which matches the flower. I'm in a zone 5a to 4b. We had a pretty bad winter this last year and are in the middle of a grueling hot and humid streak in central Michigan. I guess I will see how determined this rose is to grow.
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I love lavender roses.
I've grown this one in 3 states...CA,TX, and GA. It really is the worst rose I have ever grown. The petals fry in the sun, and it's a blackspot magnet.
Yet still, the color and the bloom form are why I keep giving it a chance.
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16 OCT 09 by
Don H
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The July 8, 1956 edition of The Saint Petersburg Times reported that the parentage of Sterling Silver was "a cross between the well known hybrid tea rose, Peace, and a grey blue-lavender rose called Morning Mist".
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=888&dat=19560708&id=n9ANAAAAIBAJ&sjid=M3YDAAAAIBAJ&pg=5601,3780064
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Great information Don!
I thought 'Morning Mist' by Fisher might still be offered for sale, but when you go to the Brentwood Bay Nursery Website, it says they offer the Austin rose by the same name.
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=38003
Apparently the Fisher version is out of commerce.
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#2 of 12 posted
16 OCT 09 by
Don H
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Morning Mist is a dead end as far as the lineage goes. Gladys listed it as a selfling of one of her other hybrids which she didn't name.
The roses that are listed in Gladys Fisher's patents are
Peace - patent 591, as female
Rapture - unpatented,as female
Rome Glory - patent 304,as male
Happiness - patent 911, as female
New Yorker - patent 823, as male
Golden Anniversary - patent 806, probably as female
Masquerade - patent 975, probably as male
Mission Bells - patent 923 as male
Talisman - unpatented, as female
R. M. S. Queen Mary - patent 249 as male
Rome Glory - unpatented, as female
Better Times - patent 23 as male
Orange Nassau - patent 350, as male
Floradora - unpatented as female
Fashion - patent 789 as male
Of these, Rapture is the only one that is a greenhouse rose and which looks to me like it might otherwise fit the bill as being grandparent to SS.
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Fascinating.
I would have bet money 'Grey Pearl' was lurking somewhere in the lineage of SS.
Mrs. Fisher must have been very pleasantly surprised when SS popped up.
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#4 of 12 posted
27 FEB 10 by
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hmmm.....I actually read an article somewhere.....in fact it was from a book about rose names, and it talked about gray pearl as being one of the parents of sterling silver. I think that lineage would make a lot of sense because gray pearl is a very weak rose and sterling silver is not a particularly good grower from a whole variety of reports. Mine grows reasonably well and is healthy. Go figure. I live in pennsylvania. Maybe my climate is well suited for it.
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#5 of 12 posted
16 MAR 10 by
Don H
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Robert, it turns out that Morning Mist never made it to the marketplace. See
news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1876&dat=19560530&id=rmgsAAAAIBAJ&sjid=YMsEAAAAIBAJ&pg=2951,3561950
I think you are correct about Grey Pearl lurking behind Sterling Silver. My guess (yet again) is that Morning Mist was an OP seedling of Lavender Pinocchio. The timing was right, and you've pointed out elsewhere the ability of Lavender Pinocchio to pass along fragrance.
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Fascinating. I bet you're right.
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The 1956 article said she'd not introduced it, however a bed of a lavender HT named Morning Mist grew at Rose Hills Memorial Park Rose Garden in Whittier, Ca until the late 1980s. I was permitted to take cuttings there several times and Morning Mist and Dennison Morey's Mountain Haze were two I tried to propagate and failed. They grew there until the rose gardens were removed and replaced with the Rose Hills Rose Trials.
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#9 of 12 posted
17 JAN 12 by
Don H
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Wow. Any chance you took photos of Morning Mist?
I do hope somebody in a suitable climate preserves VID Sterling Silver after Vintage closes.
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Hi Don, unfortunately, I don't think so. I don't remember photographing it and when permitted to make a cutting run, I would have been armed with a specific list of material to gather and the supplies necessary to accomplish it. The garden was nearly seventy miles from home and rush hour traffic as well as time to process the material were taken into consideration. I most often didn't carry my camera with me for fear of dropping or otherwise damaging or losing it. Those times, I was on a "mission"! The more I dig into this, the more I'm beginning to wonder if what we have ISN'T Sterling Silver, but perhaps Morning Mist? Weak plant, too few petals, etc. You know how easily things are mistaken and confused in the trade. And, you've probably experienced any lavender rose being responded to as "LOOK at the Sterling Silvers!"
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#11 of 12 posted
11 JUN 13 by
 Benaminh
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Don, University of California Davis Foundation Plant Services has an extensive VID list and is offering virus indexed Sterling Silver cuttings and budwood:
http://fpms.ucdavis.edu/rose.html
As of 07/10/13, listed under "Custom Services," they charge about USD $2,000 to clean any rose variety of virus, but require three plants and two years' time.
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#7 of 12 posted
16 MAR 10 by
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Greast post Don! We should get someone to update that info. BTW, I found the book that said Grey Pearl was a parent. It's called: A Rose by Any Name: The Little-Known Lore and Deep-Rooted History of Rose Names
by Douglas Brenner and Stephen Scanniello.
I think your reference is much more reliable and accurate so I say we should definitely get that officially listed. (Nevermind, it already is.)
:) Thanks. Getting the lineage for this one is actually kind of a big deal, as almost all of the lavenders are derived from this plant it seems.
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I don't really doubt the Peace heritage. Or the Grey Pearl heritage. But I almost want to say Sterling Silver is 1/4 floribunda, which makes me wonder about Fashion. An example: Peace x (Grey Pearl x Fashion).
By the way, here is the link to the passage mentioned:
books.google.com/books?id=anq6v1LekNIC&pg=PP1&lpg=PP1&dq=A+Rose+by+Any+Name:+The+Little-Known+Lore+and+Deep-Rooted+History+of+Rose+Names&source=bl&ots=uifWgQ-jh4&sig=UmI6I4Y92OqTcOuWXv1FUoDoF6g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwie1vHjl83TAhVL5GMKHclwAmsQ6AEIUzAJ#v=onepage&q=sterling%20silver&f=false
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