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Initial post 7 days ago by SDShine
This rose is being sold by April & Ashley. The breeder is listed as Pottschmidt, introduced in 2024, and is suitable for zones 5-11.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 6 days ago by jedmar
Thank you, breeder added!
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Initial post 25 JUL by Bug_girl
Is this shade tolerant?
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 25 JUL by Nastarana
Gallicas, hybrid Gallica in this case, can grow in shade but you will get better bloom in a sunny location. IDK about this one, but my Charles de Mills blooms after the partly overhanging sycamore tree has begun to leaf out.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 6 days ago by Bug_girl
Thank you!
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Initial post 6 days ago by MiGreenThumb
'Albertine' will experience extensive cane loss from winter kill in some Z5b winters. My winters generally have high precipitation, and average humidity is 50% here in the heart of the Great Lakes. Wild temperature swings are common.
Some winters though, it comes through fine and puts on a great show.
'Albertine' likely reaches the (useful and honest) northernmost limits of its cold tolerance here in Southern Michigan, Z5b.

This is an area where even the likes of 'New Dawn' will struggle. 'Westerland' dies to the crown every winter. 'Dr. Huey' seems odd/highly particular/located in ideal microclimes as he ranges from pathetic and useless as an understock or in the garden to rather massive things with good hardiness. You always know the Good Doctor when you see him in the deep red finery of his spring suit.
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Initial post 25 FEB 04 by LINDA
IS THIS ROSE ALSO A CLIMBER. ARE THERE CLIMBERS THAT ARE MORE SHADE TOLERANT. i AM LOOKING FOR A CLIMBER THAT IS DISEASE RESISTANT AND BLOOMS A LOT.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 25 FEB 04 by shanegreenburg
New Dawn is an outstanding climber...no disease and good repeat. It is also quite shade tolerant. It's flexible canes are easy to train. If you want a better flower, there is a sport of New Dawn called Awakening. Mine took a year before they flowered, but they are worth the wait. Completely hardy in my garden. Be warned, however, that they get big very quickly.

One rose that blooms like mad all summer with only half a days sun is Abraham Darby. It can be grown as a small climber (8ft) and has a fragrance to die for. It does get blackspot, but it still never stops flowering. It has had very little dieback during the winter.

My favorite climbing rose has to be Westerland or its sport, Autumn Sunset. Both bloom very well, and have been completely disease free for me in Pennsylvania (blackspot heaven). Westerland also has a great fragrance (Autumn Sunset is not as fragrant to my nose). I have heard reports that they are shade tolerant, but I have never grown them under such conditions. In my zone 6 garden, they can lose a few canes during the winter, but come back very quickly. In colder zones, they might not grow well as climbers.

Other roses you may check out are Bubble Bath and Darlow's Enigma. They are climbers/shrubs and are supposed to be among the most shade tolerant of all roses and bloom non-stop. They are on my want list to purchase, but I have not personally grown them.

Hope this helps.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 30 MAY 16 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5
Thank you for fantastic info., much appreciated.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 7 days ago by MiGreenThumb
In the Central Great Lakes (Michigan, Z5b) 'Westerland' has never retained any living cane after winters here. It also black spots as terribly as anything unhealthy you can imagine.
That being said: even 'New Dawn' will struggle to survive above ground in certain winters here in Z5b.
I'm going to try 'Buff Beauty ' in a protected spot mainly because I just want to see it "in the flesh", but I expect it to freeze out.
One thing I've learned from Gardenweb/Houzz forums is that with increasing humidity and precipitation from, say, just East of the Rockies towards the Atlantic seaboard, the effect is around half a zone lower then farther West where it's drier.
It's interesting as folks in Kansas, Oklahoma, etc. have better survivability and winter hardiness due to such factors.
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