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'Madame Plantier' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 56-351
most recent 13 AUG SHOW ALL
Initial post 28 JUL 11 by Hardy
Here's a question for those with a good grip on fragrance issues: looking over the list of components, I see none of the usual chinensis markers. Wouldn't that make it very unlikely to be a Noisette, or am I missing something?
Reply #1 of 4 posted 28 JUL 11 by jedmar
You are quite right. Compare with the article "Volatile Components in Chinese Roses": 'Mme Plantier' is missing the typical beta-ionone. It is very much an alba, as the comparison with the VOC analysis of 'Maiden's Blush' and 'Königin von Dänemark' shows. The very early classification as a Hybrid Noisette seems to be based not on a Noisette as a parent, but possibly R. moschata.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 29 JUL 11 by Palustris
I couldn't help wondering why it is so cold hardy. It will do well in US zone 4. I guess that explains it.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 13 AUG by Michael Garhart
It's hard to say. Some species were often called musk rose in passing, that were not actually Rosa moschata.
Reply #4 of 4 posted 13 AUG by Andrew from Dolton
Shakespeare's musk rose was Rosa arvensis.
Discussion id : 3-173
most recent 15 MAR 15 SHOW ALL
Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Unregistered Guest
I have a Madame Plantier Rose that is appromixately 5' tall and has no buds. It gets full sun and I keep the soil moist. My other roses are blooming and have been since June. This rose was planted at the same time. I am stymied becases I can't figure out why it isn't blooming. I also have been fertilizing with Schultz bloom pus (10-60-10). Please could you give me a suggestion on what to do,
Reply #1 of 2 posted 24 JUN 04 by Leslie_Pz
As I understand them, Mme Plantier roses like partial shade. I've even seen one site mention they like dappled shade.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 15 MAR 15 by Hardy
Mine does fine when in pretty deep shade, but its colony of PM also thrives. PM pressure here is intense, and it's probably a different strain than what most of you have, but depending on where you live, you might want to leave it in a pot at the intended location for a while, and see whether it stays healthy.
Discussion id : 759
most recent 7 FEB 13 SHOW ALL
Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Anonymous-797
I was told today that a beautiful white rose that climbs over a gate was a Madame Pierrier (it sounded like "Madame Pear- re-ay"). When I looked for the roseon your web site I could not find it. Any suggestions as to which rose I saw?

Reply #1 of 3 posted 23 APR 03 by Unregistered Guest
It might be Madame Alfred Carriere. Put that name into he search here on and you can read about it. I think this is the one you might want.
I have heard rose experts say this is a fabulous rose.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 7 FEB 13 by Plater
What comes to mind is Madame Alfred Carrière,
It fades to white rather quickly in sunshine
Reply #3 of 3 posted 7 FEB 13 by Jay-Jay
Not meant Madame Isaac Pereire? That sounds similar!
Discussion id : 57-287
most recent 17 SEP 11 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 17 SEP 11 by Patricia Routley
The mentions of sandy soil, hard to propagate, suitable farther south and no nematode evidence, in the 1927 reference leads me to think that perhaps 'Mme. Plantier' may have been confused with Fortuniana' in America at one stage.
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