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Discussion id : 90-932
most recent 17 FEB 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 15 FEB 16 by true-blue
For ease of referencing I have separated the paragraphs.
The author discusses two HPs the first being Géant des Batailles.

Hazel Le Rougetel - A Heritage of Roses, 1988 p.63-4

The 2nd 'Général Jacqueminot', was introduced in 1853 and described ten year later by David Hay of Auckland as 'most brilliant, crimson, scarlet, even surpassing Géant des Batailles, the best in this class'.
Eighteen year later, Henderson of New York, emphasized, 'This is now the most fashionable of all roses, or winter flowers' and thought that probably 200,000 sq. ft (18,580 sq. m) of greenhouses were devoted exclusively to its growth in the vicinity of New York for the purpose of forcing it.
Still the praise continued: B. A. Elliott & Co., Plantsmen of Pittsburgh had 'never had better success with Hybrid Perpetuals than in last summer and autumn; one bed of Jacqueminots containing a hundred plants gave us quantities of bloom daily from June to September' (A Few Flowers Worthy of General Culture, Pittsburgh, 1899).

Finally, forty years after introduction, T. B. Jenkins added his applause:

In 1853 France gave us Général Jacqueminot, leader of the Hybrid Perpetuals, the grand, dark crimson rose, so sturdy in growth, rich in bloom and powerful in colour. The great half grown crimson buds have slept on the bosom of every belle since that day and they have been sold by the hundred for as many dollars to New York dealers and were retailed, no doubt, for twice that sum. A few days before one Christmas the only Jacqueminot buds to be found in the city were sold for $15 each or eight times their weight in gold.
Roses and Rose Culture, Rochester, N.Y. (1892)
Reply #1 of 1 posted 17 FEB 16 by Patricia Routley
Thank you. Reference added.
Discussion id : 60-961
most recent 29 NOV 15 SHOW ALL
Initial post 15 JAN 12 by goncmg
If you want to grow an easy rose from seed, this is the one in my experiences. You can just throw the seed in the soil, no chilling, nothing, and pretty much immediately as if it was a zinnia and not a rose, up they come, popcorn, huge germ %. And some end up being once-blooming but many bloom right away----they are never very good---but sometimes it is just about the experience and again, you want an easy one to see what a rose is like from seed, this is a good bet.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 15 JAN 12 by HMF Admin
Thank you so much for taking the time to share your experience with the HMF community !
Reply #2 of 2 posted 29 NOV 15 by Salix
It is important to note that only roses without species from temperate to artic enviroments in their near ancestry will sprout without chilling- rugosas, gallicas, damasks, and hybrid laxas (for example) won't sprout, but Chinas, hybrids banksias, HT, Teas, and most Noisettes will.
Discussion id : 80-432
most recent 9 SEP 14 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 9 SEP 14 by CybeRose
Gardeners’ Chronicle (Feb 11, 1888) p. 168

Gloire de Rosamène.—This may be regarded, I think, as having a great deal to do with the brilliant coloured Roses belong to the H.P. class, Général Jacqueminot is generally considered to have been a seedling from this, and although at times it is hardly double enough—partaking in this respect too much of the character of its parent—yet there are times when it stands out above all the high-coloured Roses; and although forty years and more have elapsed since it was first sent out, it has more than once lately run an extremely close race for the medal for the best Rose in the show. The General has also been the parent, evidently, of many of our high-coloured Roses, so that, if for this reason only, Gloire de Rosamène ought to find a place in the rosarian’s garden; but as a pillar Rose it is very beautiful, being brilliant in colour and very free flowering.
Discussion id : 73-995
most recent 9 SEP 13 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 9 SEP 13 by CybeRose
Everblooming Roses for the Out-door Garden of the Amateur (1912) pp. 44-45
Georgia Torrey Drennan

General Jacqueminot, among famous roses of the world, was the most distinct and celebrated member of this family until the appearance of the American Beauty. Charitably granted the weakness of blooming but once a year, paradoxical yet true, both General Jacqueminot and American Beauty must be accorded high place among everbloomers. They simply reverse the season. Their bloom time is winter. Florists find them as constant during the winter months as the Teas during the summer. They supply the cut roses of winter under the heaviest demands of society. Under glass, they make the winter garden brilliant.

Jacqueminot is much more available for amateurs than American Beauty. It is a free and responsive garden rose, blooming in great splendour for six weeks in spring and early summer. No rose can altogether take its place. Florists depend on it for exquisitely beautiful buds in winter, and so popular has it been that one occasion is recalled when the buds sold for eighteen dollars apiece in New York City. Sweep the eye over any garden of roses in springtime bloom, and it will be easily understood why General Jacqueminot is so highly distinguished. The intense glow and radiance of the rich crimson-lake roses of velvety substance, would give it distinction among the roses of Cashmere or the blooms of Damascus. Fisher Holmes, of later origin, is called the "improved Jacqueminot." It has the same deep, rich, crimson hue, and is a larger, fuller rose, blooming a week or ten days longer in spring.

(This discussion was published long before Nicholas imported the truly improved and ever-blooming Gen Jack from France.)
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