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'The Sweetheart Rose' Reviews & Comments
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This one has just started doing something odd. It's generally free of thorns, but on new canes has recently started putting out a pair of quite large thorns, roughly at 90 degrees to each other, at each stem junction. These are the only thorns on the plant.
I tried to get a decent picture of this, but my $&#^@! camera insisted it wanted to take lovely shots of the mulch in the background. Will have another go tomorrow and see if camera is feeling more cooperative.
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#1 of 12 posted
8 AUG 16 by
 Jay-Jay
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Just take a look at this photo GMC.
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Photo appears to be missing. ;)
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#3 of 12 posted
8 AUG 16 by
Jay-Jay
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Forgot the URL: Just take a look at this photo GMC. http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=21.165378
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Similar shape, but as I said they are paired, at around 90 degrees, and only at stem junctions. Will go and try another shot now. It's about time I went and did the morning aphid squash (which is really just an excuse to enjoy the roses).
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Ok, I outsmarted my camera. Check out #286271 and #286272.
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I think they may be fairly normal for' Mlle. Cecile Brunner' - my bush has them too. They are called infrastipular prickles. From my Collins Dictionary - Infra: prefix: below, beneath, after.
stipular: (below the) stipules.
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I see. So "thornless, or almost" means "has two thumping great fangs wherever a new branchy bit starts".
Handy to know, for people who are planning on putting it beside a path. :D
Edit: I think these ones would be infranodal rather than infrastipular. Aint got no stipules near 'em. ;)
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I could be wrong. My botany teacher, Mr. Collins, doesn't tell me about infranodals. But my plant is right by the path and the fangs are no problem at all. The blooms lean out a bit so if you are going to bump into something, you'll bump into a bloom, not a fang.
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Ok cool. That sounds alright then. Mine is next to a path, of course.
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#10 of 12 posted
9 AUG 16 by
Jay-Jay
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Are those hooked prickles/thorns (or prickles in general) meant/originated just for climbing, or for catching "prey", or some flesh or coat/fur/hair too? To get the necessary decomposition products of those animal or human source particles, to fertilize itself???
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Not sure, but it certainly works for the latter. :D
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I looked again and you're right. Infrastipular they are.
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So my young Cecile (7 weeks in the ground, from bare root) has just popped out its first flower. The description here (and elsewhere, for that matter) says "moderate apple fragrance". My one smells not all all apple-ish and distinctly musky. At least, it does to me. The closest description, for other Aussies who will know what it means, is sort of like musk lifesavers. It's very pleasant, but not a trace of apple.
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Journal des roses - Page 175 (1880)
Nous avons reçu aussi de madame veuve Ducher, horticulteur-rosiériste, 23, chemin des Quatre-Maisons, Lyon - Guillotière (Rhône), les noms et descriptions des deux roses nouvelles ci-après obtenues de semis dans cet établissement.
Rosier Polyantha remontant.
Mademoiselle Cécile Brunner. — Plante naine, très vigoureuse et très convenable pour bordures de massifs; cette variété est issue du rosier Polyantha sarmenteux, fleurie en corymbe. coloris beau rose vif à fond jaunâtre, pétales du pourtour rose clair, très odorante, variété extra.
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I think the zone rating is underrated. I've had this rose grow near the road with only natural snowfall for protection for over 10 years. Minus 20 doesn't bother it and there is very little die back.
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