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Michael Garhart
most recent 12 days ago HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 12 days ago by Michael Garhart
I have a feeling that it wasn't bred from Frau Karl Druschki. I could see the pollen parent being probable though.

Like, maybe there was a typo somewhere and it was originally this?

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.25248.0

We can't know without genetic testing or unfound documents, but I find FKD to be highly suspect.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 12 days ago by HubertG
The earliest references in Rosen-Zeitung class it as a Hybrid Polyantha with no references to its parentage that I can see.
FKD x Franz Deegen is indeed suspect.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 12 days ago by Michael Garhart
Yeah. That makes sense.

The foliage, at least to me, screams Aglaia descendent.
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Initial post 17 JAN 12 by goncmg
If I were to be in charge of buying a few roses for someone who does not have a green thumb and/or has never grown roses, EARTH SONG would be at the top of the list. Just like everyone has posted here, the plant just grows with enthusiasm and blooms like mad. The color is pretty common but up against Electron or Miss All American Beauty or Peter Frankenfeld or Cynthia or Tribute or so many others, for the novice this is just tops. Took winter 88-89 and 92-93 in Columbus (temps reached nearly -20 with not much snow cover) with only 1/2 way die-back. To boot, the plant was standing alone in an underplanted border and subject to hideous winds. Finally moved it to the "real rose garden" when it became clear that (1) it earned its spot and (2) originally marketed as a shrub it is really a GR........close to 40 years old and just chugging along, still rated I think 8.0, nobody ever talks about it and you don't see it offered that many places.....totally under-appreciated/under-marketed............
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 12 days ago by Michael Garhart
That's what I did, except I sent them Barn Dance. They have it a decade later.
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Initial post 7 SEP 16 by BarbaraG SE Virginia
Disappointing in public garden here in hot, humid SE Virginia. Poor bloom, lot of dieback despite mild winter, and extensive defoliation. It was chosen for an organic rose garden; we have yet to find a really good white.
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 7 SEP 16 by Give me caffeine
Which ones have you tried?
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 8 SEP 16 by BarbaraG SE Virginia
We have tried Flower Carpet White, Rugosa Blanc Double de Coubert, and Marie Daly (blush). I need to correct myself and say that Lions Rose (Lions Fairy Tale) is highly satisfactory; but with an apricot blush in the center the effect is more cream colored than pure white. Spice is wonderfully healthy and an almost continuous bloomer but again, not pure white.
Souvenir de St. Ann's has proven very shade tolerant; rebloom is only fair. We have lost some SDSA to freeze damage. (We also lost an entire group of Mystic Beauty which is a very pale pink, like SDLM)
The current design doesn't allow room for Darlow's Enigma or Ducher, both of which are a very pure white.
The gazebo in the center of the garden provides a pop of pure white; it is surrounded by Peach Drift. It's used for weddings so there are no climbers on it, to provide good sight lines all round.
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 8 SEP 16 by Give me caffeine
Pascali is supposed to be bulletproof, if you can live with the lack of scent.

I'm currently trying White Ensign in the subtropics. It's looking promising, but I haven't had it long enough to give good feedback.
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 9 SEP 16 by Nastarana
Have you considered 'White Medilland'?, which is pure white and, in VA, should be an almost continuous bloomer?
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 15 APR 17 by BarbaraG SE Virginia
We are looking for a bushy chest-high shrub which is highly blackspot resistant. Currently we are considering the Kordes floribunda 'Polar Express'. Fortunately ARE has it. I am hoping to see Polar Express in a public garden somewhere.
MK was a disaster for us and we have at least eight of them in a very prominent position.
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 7 SEP by Michael Garhart
My favorite so far is Lullaby, if you can get it. Mine is growing fine next to a pine tree, which nothing else thrives next to lol.
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 7 SEP by Kathy Strong's Del Cerro Garden
I also like Lullaby, but if you want big, like big enough for a pergola, then go with Darlow's Enigma -- It's excellent. But it does set hips and therefore best blooming will be if someone takes off the hips occasionally.
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Initial post 7 SEP by Michael Garhart
Kathy, did yours mildew or fade really badly? I think this one is pretty, but I'm always hesitant on most miniflora because of these 2 problems.

So far, only Powerhouse and Power Point have been kind to me here.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 7 SEP by Rosaholic's Southern California Garden
I lost it long ago, I think back when I still lived in San Juan Capistrano. So, sorry, don't remember its diseasiness.
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 7 SEP by Michael Garhart
Thanks, though! So hard to find good golds.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 7 SEP by Rosaholic's Southern California Garden
I do remember liking it, and being sad when I realized it had died. It's probably one of those that is a pretty good rose that gets a name that doesn't inspire many sales.
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