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'Albertine' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 106-127
most recent 26 OCT SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 22 OCT by NikosR
Is Albertine self cleaning or does it hold on its wasted blooms for the rest of the year? This is important to know for rampant ramblers like this if one does not feel deadheading a large rambler under the heat is an enjoyable passtime.
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Reply #1 of 10 posted 22 OCT by Patricia Routley
The 2011 reference says:
" Later the bloom dies most ungracefully and hangs on to its dead petals. Not in a spreading way, but losing all oomph in the petal and just collapsing to hang like a wet dishcloth in the middle of the pretty cluster."

Nevertheless, I would not be without it.
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Reply #6 of 10 posted 24 OCT by Jay-Jay
On this part (Albertine is a triploid and sets no hips) of what You wrote in that article, I have to respectfully disagree as for setting hips... for it sets quite a few hips. See attached photo's I made today. Sorry for the less sharp photo's, for the light-conditions were bad and I didn't have a steady stand and or hand.
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Reply #7 of 10 posted 24 OCT by Patricia Routley
That is so interesting Jay-Jay. You certainly have many hips there.
I've double checked where that information came from and it was G. D. Rowley, writing in the 1960 American Rose Annual, page 110 on Triploid Garden Roses. Among the other Wichuraiana roses he mentioned in the article were 'American Pillar', Dr. W. van Fleet', 'New Dawn', 'Albertine' and 'Emily Gray'.

I actually do have a photo of a miserable hip or two on 'American Pillar' and will add that to its file.
Perhaps it may be that a hip may not signify fertility? But I will be watching my 'Albertine' for hips this year.
Patricia
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Reply #8 of 10 posted 24 OCT by Jay-Jay
Maybe it needs our weather?
On the other hand, this year was exceptionally sunny and dry over here.
I'll harvest the hips and sow some seeds.
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Reply #10 of 10 posted 26 OCT by NikosR
Being triploid discourages seed fertility, not necessarily hip setting. Hip setting is very much affected by the existence of well developed reproductive organs on the flower.
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Reply #2 of 10 posted 23 OCT by Jay-Jay
The dead flowers hang for a while, but after a while, when the hips swell, the petals disappear. But maybe that was due to a lot of rain and wind.
Will observe this next year.
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Reply #3 of 10 posted 23 OCT by Andrew from Dolton
If you blast the bush with a leaf blower it will remove a lot of the dead flowers. This also works quite well for Camellias.
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Reply #4 of 10 posted 24 OCT by Margaret Furness
Interesting thought. Someone advised me to deadhead a "ground-cover" rose with a golf-club.
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Reply #5 of 10 posted 24 OCT by Jay-Jay
hole in one!
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Reply #9 of 10 posted 26 OCT by Puns 'n' Roses
I can frequently be seen beating my monstrous Christine Helene with a long stick. I don't know what the neighbours think, and I don't actually care - by this I get rid of all the wilted petals without deadheading. And Christine Helene has hundreds of blooms. While hips form on the beaten part, she makes new trusses on new canes. So that's my low-tech recommendation, beat it with a stick. Love the golf club tip as well.
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Discussion id : 98-332
most recent 2 APR HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 2 APR by Andrew from Dolton
Margery Fish, A Flower For Every Day. Published by The Garden Book Club, 121 Charring Cross Road, London W.C.2.

Mrs Fish's garden East Lambrook Manor is in Somerset in the south-west of England.

p82-3
I was asked recently which climbing rose I would choose if I could only have one. I said Albertine, which may surprise some people. I know the flowers are not the most shapely roses we can have, nor do they last for more than a day or two. Another drawback is that it has only one flowering, but what a job it makes of it! Whatever other roses are grown, I think there should be at least one Albertine in every garden for its luxuriant growth and rich stunning foliage which never has a trace of black spot. Its cuttings strike with all the ease in the world and those delightful deep salmon pink roses, so sweetly scented, are produced in such profusion that one can cut and cut during the weeks they are in bloom. At no other time am I so prodigal with flowers in the house. Bowls of Albertine appear in every room and I have no conscience in sacrificing buds as I have with other roses. As a matter of fact it it impossible to cut Albertine without a few buds, but they open in water so it is not really wasetful.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 2 APR by Jay-Jay
Thank you for this appraisal of Albertine. It surprised me as well!
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Discussion id : 97-830
most recent 5 MAR HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 MAR by Andrew from Dolton
I'm quite surprised to see in this rose's description: "Climbing, thornless (or almost)", I always found it a rather prickly rose.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 MAR by Patricia Routley
It certainly is prickly. Thanks Andrew.
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Discussion id : 93-979
most recent 13 JUL 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 13 JUL 16 by Linda T.
Albertine is described as once-blooming, but I get a few additional blooms later on. Mine bloomed big in May and early June, but she has a blossom and a bud now, in July. Does anyone else experience this?
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 13 JUL 16 by Jay-Jay
Mine started blooming half June and still has some flowers.
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