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Initial post today by Ozeboy
I admired this rose growing at cree's home south of Wagga Wagga NSW Australia. (See photo).
It makes hips is very disease resistant, leaves are shiny and has a look of being extremely healthy.
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Initial post 3 days ago by HubertG
The breeder's description gives the parentage as 'Alba rosea x Sylphide'.
From page 76 of the 1891 Rosen-Zeitung.
Reply #1 of 2 posted today by Patricia Routley
That's different. Reference added.
Reply #2 of 2 posted today by HubertG
Here's the full description from the same source:

"Neuste Rosen für 1892 (Beschreibungen der Züchter)

Züchter: Soupert & Notting - Luxemburg ...

5. Léon XIII. Strauch kräftig, hellgrüne Belaubung; Blume gross, gefüllt, in Büscheln blühend, 5 bis 6 Blumen auf jedem Zweige, schalenförmig; Farbe glänzend porzellanweiss, sehr zart gelb nuanciert im Zentrum. Varietät extra. (Alba rosea x Sylphide.)"

My translation:

Newest roses for 1892 (descriptions of the breeders)

Breeder: Soupert & Notting - Luxembourg

5. Léon XIII. Bush vigourous, light green foliage; Flower large, double, blooming in clusters, 5 to 6 flowers on each shoot, shallowly cupped; Colour lustrous porcelain white, nuanced with very delicate yellow in the centre. Exceptional variety. (Alba rosea x Sylphide.)

[Of the other four roses from Soupert & Notting described, three also have their parentages given.]
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Initial post 3 days ago by HubertG
From the 'Rosen-Zeitung' 1891, page 64

"Neueste Rosen ...

Maud Little, Bl. gross, sehr gefüllt, feine Form, Farbe chinesischrosa, sehr schöne und zarte Färbung, Wuchs mässig, Haltung gut."

My translation:

Newest Roses ...

Maud Little, flower large, very double, fine shape, colour China pink, very beautiful and delicate colouring, growth moderate, well mannered.

[this last phrase 'Haltung gut' which I've translated as 'well mannered' is somewhat hard to translate. Haltung usually refers to someone's demeanour or bearing but it is possible to translate it as poise, or in this sense how the flowers are held. I think it refers to the overall nature of the shrub - I'm not sure. Maybe some native German speaker could possibly help here].
Reply #1 of 1 posted today by Patricia Routley
Thanks HubertG. Reference added.
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Initial post 3 days ago by Geoffrey
Fragrant Cloud was introduced in Australia by Hazlewood Bros Pty Ltd in 1965 as "Duftwolke"
Reply #1 of 4 posted today by Patricia Routley
...and other nurseries as well in that year. So I don't really know who was the first official introducer. See the 1965 reference.
I don't suppose you have a copy of the Hazlewood 1965 catalogue do you Geoffrey? The last one I have is 1964.
Reply #2 of 4 posted today by Geoffrey
G'day Patricia, No, I don't have a catalogue, but someone I was chatting to said that they did and it showed up in theirs. The problem with roses imported back then was that there were many nurseries importing various roses and renaming them as well. Makes things interesting when trying to research their provenance :)
Reply #3 of 4 posted today by Patricia Routley
Sure does. Thanks anyway Geoffrey.
Reply #4 of 4 posted today by Margaret Furness
So what's changed?
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