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Discussion id : 111-160
most recent 2 JUN HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 1 JUN by Kim97056
Can anyone help me Id this rose? It was my great-grandmothers, she was born in 1916. I think it’s 60-70+ years old, and my great grandpa bought it for her as an anniversary gift. It’s been transplanted probably 8-10 times, she moved it to each new house so it was quite important to her.
The rose is grafted.
It has 25 petals.
Beautiful strong fragrance. If the breeze is right, I can smell it on the patio
I’ve had success at getting a cutting to root so now I have two.
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 1 JUN by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Could be, 'Talisman'.
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 1 JUN by Margaret Furness
I wondered about that too, but the Talisman description says "Thornless or almost".
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 1 JUN by Robert Neil Rippetoe
'Talisman' has thorns, (prickles). They are moderately well spaced as compared to many.

You will note, "Thornless or almost", is almost like default setting here at HMF.

I don't know why so many are listed this way but I've noted in most cases it is incorrect.
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 1 JUN by Kim97056
My rose is very lightly thorned.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 1 JUN by Margaret Furness
I no longer have Talisman, but the prickles on the photo I posted are similar to those on your rose - some almost straight, some slightly down-curved.
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 1 JUN by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I'm fairly certain your rose is, 'Talisman'.

It was very popular, sold far and wide, about the time your GGrandmother would have acquired it.
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 2 JUN by Give me caffeine
Umm, yes. It seems to usually mean "Thornless, or almost, when compared to horribly spiky monsters like Mermaid or Rose primula, and if you are feeling exceptionally charitable".
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Discussion id : 111-070
most recent 29 MAY HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 28 MAY by Maralynn
Please help me identify this rose that I fell in lust with this week. It's from a friend's garden, but she doesn't know what it is. The bush is 5 ft. tall, there are four or five blooms at the end of a long stem. The blossom is 6 1/2 inches across (be still my heart!) and it reminds me of the most blousy, romantic evening gown you have ever seen.
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Reply #1 of 8 posted 28 MAY by Kathy Strong's Del Cerro Garden
Please add a picture. There are thousands of roses that match your verbal description.
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Reply #2 of 8 posted 29 MAY by Maralynn
Thanks for the prompt!

Mara
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Reply #3 of 8 posted 29 MAY by Kathy Strong's Del Cerro Garden
Looks like Queen Elizabeth to me.
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Reply #4 of 8 posted 29 MAY by Maralynn
I think that with blossoms of 6 1/2 inches in diameter, it's perhaps too big to be Queen Elizabeth?
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Reply #5 of 8 posted 29 MAY by Kathy Strong's Del Cerro Garden
In cool weather QE can get very big. I used to grow it in a marine fog zone in San Juan Capistrano. And looking at the unbloomed sprays on the whole plant pic, those are very characteristic of the manner in which QE usually blooms, i.e., long, wide spaced sprays.
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Reply #6 of 8 posted 29 MAY by Maralynn
Oh! That is so helpful to know. I was told that it has under 50 petals. Does that fit the description of QE?
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Reply #7 of 8 posted 29 MAY by Kathy Strong's Del Cerro Garden
yes. official description of QE is 38 to 40 petals. Look up Queen Elizabeth on this website and scoot around the photos tab to see more,
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Reply #8 of 8 posted 29 MAY by Maralynn
Do the edges of the petals look different to you from my edges?
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Discussion id : 110-979
most recent 7 JUN SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 25 MAY by MarthadeJong
I've got a lovely rose in my garden and I'd like to know what it is.
It's got a slightly wild/bushy growth and white flowers with a lovely fragrance. The buds have a very faint hint of pink which disappears after the flower opens.
I'm in the Netherlands, that might narrow down the options a bit (I hope).
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Reply #1 of 14 posted 25 MAY by Nastarana
Does it repeat bloom?

Have you any notion how old it might be? How long it might have been in your yard?

Would you be able to post a photo of an unopened bud? I would like to see how long the sepals are.
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Reply #2 of 14 posted 25 MAY by Andrew from Dolton
It looks a little bit like 'Alba Maxima'.
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Reply #4 of 14 posted 25 MAY by MarthadeJong
Thanks! I've just looked up Alba Maxima and it does look a lot like it!
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Reply #3 of 14 posted 25 MAY by MarthadeJong
It blooms once, generally May-June
I don't know how old it is. I've seen photo's from 2008, it was a reasonable size then. The rose was completely cut down shortly before I moved in (2010) but luckily has made a good come back since then. It's now larger than in 2008. But who knows, it may have been cut down before.
I hope the photo's will help!
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Reply #5 of 14 posted 26 MAY by Nastarana
I am going to guess 'Alba Suavolens' which has a few less petals than Maxima and a few more than Semi-plena.
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Reply #6 of 14 posted 26 MAY by MarthadeJong
Thank you :-)
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Reply #7 of 14 posted 27 MAY by Ozoldroser
Thank you Nasturana for that comment of differences as I am supposed to have 'Alba semi-plena' and 'Alba Suavolens'. I will check out IF there are any differences next spring
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Reply #8 of 14 posted 27 MAY by Patricia Routley
I too am grateful Nastarana. I have long been unsure about my white alba and after your comment this morning I looked a little at:
Maxima. Double <1500. HMF page 106
R. Alba semi plena semi double. <1629. HMF page 109
R. Alba suaveolens Semi double. <1750. HMF page 110. I did note a photo of almost round hips.
R. Alba flore simplici single. <1597. HMF page 18187

Then I started to note ones with a light pink center like
R. Alba regalis Double. <1799. HMF page 59614
R. Alba incarnata HMF page 4071
.......and many others. After scribbling down so many names, I thought it was all a little beyond me. But I do thank you.
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Reply #9 of 14 posted 27 MAY by Nastarana
R. alba semiplena, maxima, suavalons and possibly foliacea are generally believed to all be members of the same sport family, with the sport parent being most likely maxima or semi-plena. Bushes and foliage are identical, with there being small variations in the flowers.

An alleged "White Rose of York" , which is white and single, surfaced towards the end of the last century, from Beals if I remember correctly; that might be flore simplici. The pictures by anonymous 19 of flore simplici look like semi-plena to me, but one would want to see them growing together.

A lot of the pink albas seem to be variations, not quite sports, of Great Maiden's Blush, which seems to vary with climate and soil somewhat like hydrangeas do.

Vintage Gardens was at one time reporting that semi-plena and maxima were showing some repeat bloom in CA. Has and such repeat been seen in Australia?
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Reply #10 of 14 posted 27 MAY by Andrew from Dolton
In a few days time when they are in flower I will post some photographs of what I grow as 'Alba Maxima' and 'Alba Semi-Plena'. The 'Alba Maxima' I found growing in an old cottage garden, where it grows 5M up into a tree. The owners never knew it was there! I'm working there on Thursday, I'll post some photographs of this rose too. I'm inclined to agree with Nastarana that it is 'Alba Suavolens'.
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Reply #11 of 14 posted 28 MAY by MarthadeJong
Thank you all! This is very interesting. I'm looking forward to the photo's
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Reply #12 of 14 posted 29 MAY by Nastarana
'Alba Suaveolens' is being offered this year by High Country Roses in Denver.

http://www.highcountryroses.com/alba-suaveolens You can examine their picture for comparison.
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Reply #13 of 14 posted 29 MAY by Andrew from Dolton
Some alba roses being sold in the U.K.

https://www.trevorwhiteroses.co.uk/product-category/alba-roses/
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Reply #14 of 14 posted 7 JUN by Andrew from Dolton
This is the original plant I took my sucker from, growing 5M up into a tree!
A close-up of the flower.
What I grow as 'Alba Semi-Plena'.
The two for comparison, they both start off very pale pink in bud but 'Alba Maxima' (assuming that is what it is), retains a little of the pink colour as it matures.
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Discussion id : 110-660
most recent 11 MAY HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 11 MAY by Ryandd59
Body bag rose mis-label help!
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