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3 days ago by
 ksinGA
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Denali's blooms are beautiful. Very large with great form. Unfortunately, most of the time, the blooms nod. But, the few times when they stand straight, they make a perfect cut flower.
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I know it mentions shade and poor soil tollerance for this rose in the references, but catalogues often list this as needing full sun. What are your experiences of it in your own gardens?
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I collected one as a road- verge survivor, where it was growing under pine trees - probably got a little afternoon sun, and was quite small. (Strathalbyn Rd provenance in Patricia's photos). I have two from that plant, one in full sun, and one where it gets late afternoon shade. It's a tall arching shrub-climber in garden conditions here (zone 9b), taller in good soil, 2.1m and more. Best espaliered. Tends to proliferate. I'll post photos in a couple of weeks.
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Hi Margaret, thats great, thank you. I look forward to seeing it in all its glory in your photos.
Does anyone else find that it tends to proliferate a lot?
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I should add: it's very prickly. See Patricia's photo.
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Oh, that would be ok, thorniness not too big a deal - it would be going somewhere that was off the beaten track. The place I'm thinking of is about 2.5 feet in front of a 7 foot conifer hedge, dry, poorish soil, partially under the very edge of a Magnolia's canopy, with full sun up until around 12 or 1pm, then shady for the most part of the rest of the day, unless the odd ray gets over the hedge top. Would it be quite happy in those sorts of conditions? I suppose if it can survive being under Pine trees on the edge of a road it probably can. It's one of a few contenders for the spot, others being Bourbon Queen, Coupe d'Hebe, Baronne Prevost and a couple of others. Would one of them be better suited do you think?
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Or does it really sound too bad for any of the roses!
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I have three plants, all on their own roots and they do sucker. They are never watered.
Full sun (Provenance Ross Roses (as Cardinal de Richelieu-1; Sandie Maclean-2;)
Full shade (Provenance Ron Duncan-1; PT-2;)
Morning shade, afternoon sun (Provenance Strathalbyn Rd.)
The full sun and full shade are both on poor soil. They still do OK.
The morning shade and afternoon sun does much better but the site was where a neighbour dumped a tractor bucket full of cow manure for me probably in about 2000.
I feel 'Great Western' is the best rose for your site.
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Thank you Patricia, that's really helpful.
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Dingee & Conard Co. Catalog 1894, p. 86
This elegant Rose, which we now introduce for the first time, and which we have named in honor of the Old Dominion, is the result of a cross between Safrano and Marechal Niel. We consider it one of the most promising Tea Roses of modern introduction. It is a vigorous grower of bushy habit; the blooms are large, double, finely formed, lasting and of excellent substance, often remaining on the bush until dried up; color a light yellow with a tinge of saffron at the centre, reverse of petals a pinkish cast; perfume, a delicate and delightful tea scent. It will undoubtedly prove a very desirable and profitable variety for forcing. Price, 50 cents each.
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The flowers are definately at their best in the autumn in my experience. In the full strength sun of summer, they bleach quite quickly after opening. Pretty much this rose's only fault. I love it. The fragrance is superb.
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