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Initial post today by JasonSims1984
Hello. I just wondered if this rose is still growing for you. I was just thinking of what the results of this cross would be. It's a good idea. A cross to rugosa alba would probably improve its cold hardiness and still maintain the better qualities of this kind of cross. I bet rebloom would be enhanced too.
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Initial post today by JasonSims1984
What's the key difference between this species and bracteata?
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Reply #1 of 1 posted today by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Bracteata leaves are deeper green, thicker, glossier with a much heavier cuticle.

It is reported to offer mechanical resistance to RRD. I'm not sure clinopylla has ever been evaluated.
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Initial post today by Chris
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Initial post 15 APR by JasonSims1984
Are there any bracteata x rugosa crosses out there? I would be really fascinated to see what could come of that. It would be like a monster race of roses that would invade the planet! Seriously though, I would love to develop a new rose class. Kordesii is similar, but imagine a rose that would not only thrive everywhere, it would be dangerously invasive. Then use that as a parent with hybrid teas to make roses an easy garden plant again. Roses that could sucker around and end up being found in the wild 100 years from now, like harrisonii. Also, I love the potential of having new remontancy genes from species that haven't been used yet. Maybe, when 5 or more kinds of remontant genetic lines synergize, there could be a rose that would put on the kind of display a once-bloomer does, but do it all year around. 100+ flowers open at once, on a daily basis.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 15 APR by Jay-Jay
Yes there are... Did You check the offspring in the lineage tab?
See: http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.5270.7&tab=21&lstTyp=256
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Reply #2 of 4 posted today by JasonSims1984
I found pink surprise and bought that. Does anyone have experience with bracteata hybridizing? I know Ralph Moore did a lot with miniatures. I want to create bracteata roses that are more hardy than the species or its more well known hybrids alba odorata and mermaid. I bet the trick will be using an improved fertility parent like Muriel.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted today by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I've created many bracteata derivatives using Moore, Viraraghavan, and Harkness genetics. Most are not listed at HMF.

The species itself is not easy to work with.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted today by JasonSims1984
I have seen your amazing diversity of seedlings, but never noticed the bracteata crosses. Do you still have any of them, and can I entice you with some Iris or daylilies, or even a stapeliad or orchid? [I'm nearly 100 percent certain that I couldn't possibly have a rose that you don't already have.] hehe. :)
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