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Discussion id : 107-534
most recent 22 JAN HIDE POSTS
Initial post 21 JAN by Patricia Routley
From Andrew from Dolton in Cooperi comments:
I would like very much to find out more information about a garden in Haywards Heath called Earldom (as in the rose 'Earldomensis' a pteracantha hybrid). My parents lived in the town over thirty years and I grew-up there. It was from 1915 (I think) until just after his death in 1948 the home of The Royal National Rose Society's rose garden and trial ground and the private home of Mr Courtney Page and his wife, members since 1892. Situated on the Lewes Road in Haywards Heath. I still have relatives in the town and often go back and have unsuccessfully looked for the house on several occasions. One of the most expensive roads in town with many substantial houses and big gardens, I guess that name may have been changed during the last 70 years. I contacted the local horticultural society but they couldn't help and now the R.N.R.S. is defunct I have come to a dead end.

Andrew - do you have any at all of The Rose Annuals?
I think you are referring to Site No [1] below? They are my [parenthesis].

From the 1976 Annual, page 63:
The first Trial Ground of the National Rose Society was at Haywards Heath attached to the private garden [1] of Mr. And Mrs. Courtney Page. The head gardener was Mr. Baines who probably knows more about the many vicissitudes of the Society than any one else. Mr. And Mrs. Courtney Page were married on September 3, 1892 and decided on their wedding day to join the Society. She soon became influential in organizing the first Queen Alexandra Rose Day and he became Secretary of the Society in 1915 and joint Editor of the Annual in 1917. (The first Annual was in 1907). Mr. Courtney Page died in 1947. He had been in failing health for some years during which all work had been efficiently carried on by Mr. Harry Edland who, with Mr. Baines in charge of the roses, piloted the transfer of the Trial Ground to two acres of land [2] loaned by the Hertfordshire Institute of Agriculture. After three years the area was needed by the County and another site [3] was offered. Even though it was probably that this site must soon become inadequate, Memorioral Gates were erected and dedicated to the memory of Courtney Page 1915-1947. During all this time the offices for the ever increasing amount of secretarial work were first at 28 Victoria Street and then at the poky little third floor flat of 117 Victoria street, Westminster....

From the 1948 Annual, page 11: The Late Courtney Page. (Includes photo) .....Except on a few special occasions, the hundreds of articles which he contributed to The Rose Annual never bore his signature, but were anonymous.

I have found a couple of photos of him and perhaps a search of 'Earldomensis', [later edit - it didn't] and a quick skimming read of the old Annuals might also bring some information. But I have to go out and will not be able to get back to the books for another two days. Perhaps other English members may also be able to contribute in the meantime.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 21 JAN by Andrew from Dolton
thank you Patricia, that is very useful information, all that I can add to this is that his daughter Cherry tried to keep on with the rose society at Haywards Heath until it was moved up to Hertfordshire because it was too much for her. There were other pictures of "difficult" roses grown in Haywards Heath that were pictured in the rose annuals that I will try and scan into HMF. I have most of the rose annuals form 1960 until 1981 and I will look through them to see if there is anything I have missed. Thank you once again with helping in this matter.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 22 JAN by Patricia Routley
I've sent you privately an index which may help.
Discussion id : 106-888
most recent 10 DEC HIDE POSTS
Initial post 10 DEC by setigera
Hi Kim;
Some of your roses are listed as "cuttings available." Is that still the case? Thanks so appears that you have bred some beautiful stock.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 10 DEC by Rupert, Kim L.
Hi Matt, as long as it is one I still grow, yes. What are you interested in?
Discussion id : 106-575
most recent 19 NOV HIDE POSTS
Initial post 18 NOV by steve fritz
Your roses look wonderful.

I particularly like the photos of "Treasures."

I wish I could get it here in the States.

Keep up the good work.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 19 NOV by Poesie
Dear Steve,
Thank you for your positive comments about my roses and my work.

But who gives it to me! I looked at your roses and left without words. I admire you the masses of flowers, mostly large, which give a great beautiful visual effect to the garden. And as I see you also have those who are "always in bloom". The mass of flowers and long flowering is one of my next goals, which I still have to conquer. Some of them do, but not enough.
Your pictures say everything, you are excellent breeder.
The Treasures Rose, along with the Predicate of Wine, Proteus Anguinus Rose, The Healing Codes, the Dekani and Good Day are in the test field in the Netherland, on a 2-year trial.

Treasure is still a small rose with tinny branches, I think it will take some time to finally develop, as it is still young.
I also wish you many successes.

Kind regards, Irena Fabjan, Slovenia
Discussion id : 106-138
most recent 22 OCT HIDE POSTS
Initial post 22 OCT by Sandra TX
I am interested in preserving the roses hybridized by Ray Ponton. Ray has lost many of his roses due to weather and health issues. Would you be interested in sharing cuttings with me? If so, perhaps I have some cuttings that you would like as well.

Have a rosey day!
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