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Discussion id : 105-726
most recent 26 SEP HIDE POSTS
Initial post 26 SEP by Andrew from Dolton
Thirty years ago at my first job there was a tree peony growing in the wild garden that I have never been able to identify. The habit and appearance were very similar to P. lutea but the flowers were the same dark maroon colour as Cosmos atrosanguineus. It always made masses of seed pods but they were always empty inside. I wonder if any members might know what it was?
Discussion id : 104-667
most recent 17 AUG HIDE POSTS
Initial post 17 AUG by BartBalk
I was over at the California Nursery Historical Park today, talking to Bruce Roeding. He mentioned that he thinks that the single white Banksia rose is no longer at the park. He said that the nursery sold it, not sure when, but I do see it in the 1917-1918 catalog. That was the year his grandfather bought the California Nursery. Anyway, there was a cute single rose that I saw blooming last spring, April 12th. It's really in a big hedge near his property. I'd like to see if it is a Banksia, single white, but there are so many banksia roses in helpmefind, I was hoping someone could help me figure out which name it goes by. I found some pictures online that look like it's the same. I don't see any place to upload a photo, but can put it somewhere accessible. Perhaps there will be an additional screen that will come up once I hit "continue".

Thanks much!
Janet Barton
Reply #1 of 3 posted 17 AUG by Patricia Routley
Here is a simplified guide:
R. banksiae normalis (single white)
R. banksiae alba plena (double white)
R. banksiae lutescens (single yellow)
R. banksiae lutea (double yellow)
Reply #2 of 3 posted 17 AUG by Margaret Furness
If you click on your posting, then on Edit Post, there should now be an Add Photo button.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 17 AUG by Andrew from Dolton
Hello Janet,
It looks a little bit like Rosa multiflora, I don't think it is Rosa banksia.
Discussion id : 101-636
most recent 30 JUN HIDE POSTS
Initial post 29 JUN by Andrew from Dolton
Not the best picture I've ever taken. I found this rose some years ago in my grandmother's garden. I always thought it was 'The Bishop' but the leaves are far too rough and puckered. It grows about 1 metre high blooms once and suckers and has very scented flowers.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 30 JUN by Patricia Routley
Have a look at the file called "Mrs. Something"
Reply #2 of 2 posted 30 JUN by Andrew from Dolton
Thanks Patricia, that is particularly interesting. Back in April I found a scrap of a rose growing by a ruined cottage that has leaves very similar to 'Mrs Something', "the soft leaf texture is pale green, darkening with age and sometimes having a hint of blue and reddish margins", they also have a distinct puprlish sheen to their puckerred surface. But the stems are cover in red prickles in the manner of 'Barrone Prevost' and like B P it has thin smooth stipules. Found in thick woodland, I doubt it had flowered for almost a century, already it has made four very vigorous growths, I am just TOO impatient waiting for it to bloom again!
Discussion id : 73-073
most recent 3 JUN SHOW ALL
Initial post 15 JUL 13 by Darrell
Does anyone know of a multiflora hybrid with a few scattered black thorns?
Reply #1 of 7 posted 16 JUL 13 by Patricia Routley
I have particularly noticed the large, ageing to pitch-black, thorns on a foundling which I believe to be 'Mme. d'Arblay'. This rose had R. multiflora as a seed parent and has fimbriated stipules. This foundling, with photos is on HelpMefind under "Lynne Joyce's Rambler".
Reply #2 of 7 posted 16 JUL 13 by Darrell
Patricia, thank you so much. The photos on HMF match nearly everything I recorded on this rose--the long stemmed clusters, the widely scattered black thorns, the long fringed stipules, the prickles on the reverse of the petiole, etc. The only difference is the color: the rose I saw had its petals margined in pink fading to blush or white. I did check the photos and comments on 'Mme d'Arblay', which occasionally was said to be "flesh-white", which I suppose could be a pale pink. But then the rose I saw was growing in some shade and somewhat sandy soil, which may have affected the color as well.

I saw the plant last month in the old pioneer town of Jacksonville, Oregon in the graveyard of the small, old St. Andrew's church (which contained a variety of old roses).

I'm trying to write an article about that old cemetery rose garden.
Reply #3 of 7 posted 18 JUL 13 by Patricia Routley
A pleasure to help in any way, Darrell. Is your foundling on HelpMefind? Perhaps other people may be able to help further if they see photos. Your words "margined in pink" are valuable.
Reply #4 of 7 posted 18 JUL 13 by Darrell
Sad to say, my photo was not very good--too poor for accuracy--and so I deleted it. I should have taken more, but I was on a schedule and had more to see in that graveyard garden. I guess it requires another trip north.
Reply #5 of 7 posted 2 JUN by Andrew from Dolton
This is very similar to the rose I grow as 'Russelliana'.
Reply #6 of 7 posted 3 JUN by Patricia Routley
Sorry Andrew, I don't understand. Darrell's foundling is blush white, margined in pink. 'Mme. D'Arblay' is white. 'Russelliana' is purple.
Reply #7 of 7 posted 3 JUN by Andrew from Dolton
Oh soz, I put the comment in the wrong place.
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