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Discussion id : 110-004
most recent 4 days ago SHOW ALL
Initial post 8 days ago by SweetMamaPurrPurrz
Does anyone know what this might be? It was given to me 5 years ago by my grandmother. She said it was sold to her as “The Fairy” but it doesn’t look like any picture of The Fairy I’ve seen.
Reply #1 of 10 posted 7 days ago by Patricia Routley
Take a look at the file called 'Multiflora nana perpétuelle'. Ignore the photos and just read the references.
Reply #2 of 10 posted 7 days ago by Andrew from Dolton
It's not 'Baby Faurax', but it definitely has that look about it.
Reply #3 of 10 posted 5 days ago by SweetMamaPurrPurrz
Yeah seems close, but too doubled.
Reply #4 of 10 posted 5 days ago by Margaret Furness
To follow Patricia's comment: multiflora seeds were and are sold in packets as Fairy Roses. Very variable outcome; some are good.
Reply #5 of 10 posted 5 days ago by Andrew from Dolton
Its leaves are a little wide and shiny for a fairy rose.
Reply #6 of 10 posted 5 days ago by SweetMamaPurrPurrz
Well that would be interesting if it was one of these. The bush is very prolific. My grandmother started this from a cutting 2 years ago. It blooms about 7 weeks after taking a cutting and makes cuttings very easily. I have been using it for a seed parent starting this spring and I find it makes way more flowers than I can pollinate. Also it is very disease and drought resistant.
Reply #7 of 10 posted 4 days ago by Margaret Furness
If it has luciae (wichurana) parentage to give it shiny leaves, it would probably root down (layer itself) readily. Does it do that?
Reply #8 of 10 posted 4 days ago by Andrew from Dolton
It's a little bit like 'Marjorie Fair'.
Reply #10 of 10 posted 4 days ago by SweetMamaPurrPurrz
Marjorie Fair seems close but I think the pink is too dark and the clusters are a little too tight. Thanks for the input though.
Reply #9 of 10 posted 4 days ago by SweetMamaPurrPurrz
I haven't noticed it doing that (rooting down or layer itself) as it is upright and bushy. Also I've kept it trimmed well. But it roots a lot easier in general than any of my other roses.
Discussion id : 109-958
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Initial post 10 days ago by adriansoulie
Hi everyone,

I have a yellow Tea-hubrid rose that grows to around 2m high grafted and 1.5m high own roots, no fragrance and blooms in flushes throughout the season.

The foliage is glossy green.

Really vigorous.

Any idea of what it is ? I have it since 15-20 years approx.

Thank you !
Reply #1 of 3 posted 10 days ago by HubertG
I'm only guessing, but maybe 'Henry Fonda'. (?)
Reply #2 of 3 posted 10 days ago by adriansoulie
Thank you for your answer !

I am not 100% certain it's that particular variety but maybe...

I forgot to mentionned it's in France, so it must be a variety distributed in Europe
Reply #3 of 3 posted 10 days ago by Patricia Routley
It is almost impossible to determine what the rose is from a couple of bloom photos. I can only suggest you add photos of the bare winter bush, the summer bush, foliage, a leaf on your hand for size comparison, hips, bloom side-on showing pedicel, prickles, etc. Then you need to tell us of any susceptibility to disease, how many petals, how wide the average bloom is, and absolutely anything else you can think of that will help identify your foundling.
Discussion id : 109-838
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Initial post 7 APR by Margaret Furness
From Leonie K, who gardens in the subtropics, in Queensland: I have a repeat-flowering rose, bought from Bunnings (hardware chain) as Cl Perle d’Or, but it isn’t that. The buds have an apricot tinge, often with a pearly sheen, and the flowers age to white. The flowers are not very large, about 3cm (a bit over an inch) across. To me it is very similar to the rose I have grown for the past 20 years as Prosperity. However this one is more of a climber and not many prickles. When I purchased it, 3-5 years ago, it was in a pot with a ladder with it trained up and was in the company of climbers. Again the foliage is more hybrid-musk-like than a Noisette and every piece I put in grows like a weed. Noisettes do not grow easily on their own roots here. I would say it has more petals than Prosperity and sometimes it is quite pompom-like but then sometimes more just semi double. It rarely comes singly but in trusses that cascade over and do not stand up like a floribunda.
I grow Cl Softee and “Bunya Mountains”, and it isn’t either of them.

From Billy: I see fringed stipules and slight zig-zag in the growth.
Patricia and Andrew did some sleuthing via the hardware chain’s suppliers: it looks like Smooth Snowflake (HT) and Fabulous (floribunda), but they’re not climbers.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 8 APR by Patricia Routley
The only thing I can suggest now is that somebody (anybody) open up these photos on their mobile phone, next time they visit Bunnings.
Later thought: I feel that 'Sea Foam' is too prickly and the leaves too glossy to be considered.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 7 days ago by Margaret Furness
The local Bunnings (in SA) currently has no climbing roses apart from Banksia lutea.
Discussion id : 109-517
most recent 26 MAR SHOW ALL
Initial post 23 MAR by rozica
I would be very happy if you could help me with identifying this rose. I'm from Croatia (country in Central and South-east Europe, on the Adriatic Sea), so it's pretty worm at summer. This rose grows in a bush shape, the bush is around 1.5 meters high and wide and her flowers have strong and beautiful smell. The rose bush is probably around 100 years old, and she starts blossoming in May. It does bloom only for about a month, it does have a lot of flowers, but they don't last too long. It looses leaves in winter.

Here are some images which I posted in another forum, but unfortunately they werent able to help me. They said it's probably an Old Garden Rose.

Thank you in advance :)
Reply #1 of 11 posted 23 MAR by Nastarana
You might try looking through Bourbon roses at HMF.

I suppose Geschwind's roses would have been sold in Croatia?

How cold are your winters?
Reply #2 of 11 posted 23 MAR by rozica
I looked to every single one of them, and I haven't managed to fined it. Is it possible that it's a type of Damask roses?

The scent of this rose is very strong, and it smells like rose water. My mother made syrup out of her petals.

It is not lower than -10 Celsius.
Reply #3 of 11 posted 23 MAR by Patricia Routley
I think it is a Damask. It reminds me of Joasine Hanet (Damask Perp., Vibert, 1847) which has more of a button eye than I can see in your photos.
Reply #4 of 11 posted 24 MAR by Nastarana
If 'Joasine Hanet' is the same rose as "Portland from Glendora", which is by no means certain, JH does repeat bloom. I do grow PfG, and I doubt the identity with the rose in the photos. PfG has a not unattractive but rather odd four lobed configuration of petals which I don't see in the photos. The color of PfG is a lighter, more lavenderish pink than the pictured rose and the blooms are smaller. In a more favorable climate, such as I imagine would be found in coastal Croatia, the flowers would be bigger but there would surely be blooms throughout the summer.
Reply #5 of 11 posted 24 MAR by rozica
If it's going to help here is some more photos.
Reply #6 of 11 posted 25 MAR by Ozoldroser
Rozica are the flowers always so crowded together such as your last two photos show? I agree it is not the 'Joasine Hanet' possible rose. It looks larger and looser and lighter. The crowded flower buds remind me of a Portland but the shine of the leaves seems to say hybrid china to me.
Reply #7 of 11 posted 26 MAR by rozica
Yes, flowers are always crowded together. The flower is pretty fragile actually, petals are easy to rip off.

Yes, the leaves are shiny and soft, but the thorns are thick and really sharp.
Reply #8 of 11 posted 26 MAR by billy teabag
Is there ever any repeat bloom Rozica?
It is a beautiful rose and the fragrance sounds divine!
Have you given it a study name?
Reply #9 of 11 posted 26 MAR by rozica
No, it blooms only in late spring (end of April throughout May).

Should I give it a name? Feels like such an honor :)
Reply #11 of 11 posted 26 MAR by billy teabag
If you do give it a study name, an entry can be made for it here on HMF and you can add photos and information and others can access it easily. If you do find its original name, the file can then be merged with that file and your study name added as a synonym so the recent history of the rose in your part or the world becomes a part of the story of this rose. I think you honour the rose by giving it a study name while you try to find its original identity but if you are unsure about doing this, do people in the community have any sort of name for it? I'm thinking it's probably referred to as something like "That old rose with the beautiful fragrance on the xxxx road" so if it doesn't already have a local name, who better to give it a study name than someone who cares about it?
Reply #10 of 11 posted 26 MAR by Nastarana
I was wondering hybrid Bourbon, which is perhaps much the same thing as hybrid China.
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