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Does HMF have an entry for 'Diane Loomer' , JALGoldenbeauty? Here is the description from Palatine Roses:
Vancouver's Chor Leoni Men's choir has honoured its founder, Diane Loomer with this rose. The flower produces large cupped blooms of apricot pink with an old-fashioned feel. Propagated on hardy Rosa Multiflora rootstock. All roses have been grown and tended in our family-owned rose nursery.
Rose Details
Rose name: Diane Loomer
Other names: JALGoldenbeauty
Type: Hybrid Tea rose
Fragrance: Fragrant rose
Rose color: Apricot and Apricot Blend
Breeder: Jalbert, 2016
Height: 3' - 4' *
Shrub form: Upright
Bloom size: Large
Petal count: Full
Hardy: 5b - 9d * Repeat bloomer
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Thank you Nastatana. ‘Diane Loomer’ added.
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Hello all,
I am new to this site and also fairly new to roses in general. I'm looking for advice for commercially taking cuttings. The reason being is I don't want to breach anyones hard earned patents but I am looking to sell some plants comercially.
Could anyone help me to understand how this site gives out it's patent number.
For example.
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.1839.1 - Graham Thomas rose by David Austin. It's a great rose, the page says commercially available. The page also says Patent NoL425 but it's outside the normal (I've understood) 21 year patent. Sorry if these are obvious questions but I've had a good look around the site for some time now despite joining today and I am no better off. So, I thought it time to ask.
Any help would be great just so I can use the resources here correctly, also to enhance my knowledge on roses which considering I have about 70 varieties now I love them.
Thank you kindly.
C
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I note you are in the U.K. You might like to read up on the U.S. Patents for starters. HelpMeFind has information here: RESOURCES / GLOSSARY / PATENTS
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#2 of 2 posted
31 OCT 17 by
jedmar
The Patent listing only shows if a patent was ever issued (and it is not complete for every rose, e.g. many EU patents are not shown, as we haven't gone through these in detail yet). Also, we do not regularly follow up if a patent has been discarded or extended (time reasons). 'Graham Thomas' (AUSmas) is not patented in the US. The patent you mention is from New Zealand. If you want to find out if a rose is still under patent protection, you can use our Information as a starting point, but then have to do further research yourself. Our interest is more the descriptions in the patent, not whether it is still valid or not.
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About David Austen's hybrid albas.
The British website for David Austen Roses identifies the subgroup for each of the roses being offered. This information is not found on the American website. There is an old rose group, a Leander group, an English musk group and the following hybrid albas.
"The Lady's Blush' 'Scarborough Fair' 'Windflower' 'Sir John Bentjeman' 'Royal Jubilee'
I am supposing that that group in particular might grow and bloom well where I live in upstate NY, USDA zone 5.
Might anyone here have any experience of information to share about those cultivars? I am particularly interested in 'Windflower' and 'Royal Jubilee'
I have also seen the roses 'Cordelia', "Corvedale', and 'The Alexandra Rose' referred to as "like albas', or having alba ancestry.
Alba hybrids do seem to inhierit the hardiness of the alba parent, as for example, 'Mme. Plantier' and 'Mme. Legras de St. Germain' which are generally believed to be alba x noisette hybrids, but are perfectly hardy to at least zone 5.
The DA roses I have now, 'St. Cecelia', and 'Mary Rose' are "hardy" in the sense that they grow back each year, but they are puny plants which bloom very little. Some of my delicate 50s floribundas have better rebloom.
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I find myself often wondering whether any given rose is self cleaning when looking at selection criteria.
It's a characteristic you might consider adding to those already listed.
Thanks, Robert
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It is already there Robert. Go into Advanced Search> Growing> and you will find "Flowers drop off cleanly".
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Thanks Patricia, now I wish more offered this additional information.
Best wishes, Robert
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