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Discussion id : 106-270
most recent 31 OCT HIDE POSTS
Initial post 30 OCT by Ashenkorren
Hello all,

I am new to this site and also fairly new to roses in general. I'm looking for advice for commercially taking cuttings. The reason being is I don't want to breach anyones hard earned patents but I am looking to sell some plants comercially.

Could anyone help me to understand how this site gives out it's patent number.

For example. - Graham Thomas rose by David Austin. It's a great rose, the page says commercially available. The page also says Patent NoL425 but it's outside the normal (I've understood) 21 year patent. Sorry if these are obvious questions but I've had a good look around the site for some time now despite joining today and I am no better off. So, I thought it time to ask.

Any help would be great just so I can use the resources here correctly, also to enhance my knowledge on roses which considering I have about 70 varieties now I love them.

Thank you kindly.

Reply #1 of 2 posted 30 OCT by Patricia Routley
I note you are in the U.K. You might like to read up on the U.S. Patents for starters. HelpMeFind has information here: RESOURCES / GLOSSARY / PATENTS
Reply #2 of 2 posted 31 OCT by jedmar
The Patent listing only shows if a patent was ever issued (and it is not complete for every rose, e.g. many EU patents are not shown, as we haven't gone through these in detail yet). Also, we do not regularly follow up if a patent has been discarded or extended (time reasons). 'Graham Thomas' (AUSmas) is not patented in the US. The patent you mention is from New Zealand. If you want to find out if a rose is still under patent protection, you can use our Information as a starting point, but then have to do further research yourself. Our interest is more the descriptions in the patent, not whether it is still valid or not.
Discussion id : 89-407
most recent 23 NOV 15 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 23 NOV 15 by Nastarana
About David Austen's hybrid albas.

The British website for David Austen Roses identifies the subgroup for each of the roses being offered. This information is not found on the American website. There is an old rose group, a Leander group, an English musk group and the following hybrid albas.

"The Lady's Blush'
'Scarborough Fair'
'Sir John Bentjeman'
'Royal Jubilee'

I am supposing that that group in particular might grow and bloom well where I live in upstate NY, USDA zone 5.

Might anyone here have any experience of information to share about those cultivars? I am particularly interested in 'Windflower' and 'Royal Jubilee'

I have also seen the roses 'Cordelia', "Corvedale', and 'The Alexandra Rose' referred to as "like albas', or having alba ancestry.

Alba hybrids do seem to inhierit the hardiness of the alba parent, as for example, 'Mme. Plantier' and 'Mme. Legras de St. Germain' which are generally believed to be alba x noisette hybrids, but are perfectly hardy to at least zone 5.

The DA roses I have now, 'St. Cecelia', and 'Mary Rose' are "hardy" in the sense that they grow back each year, but they are puny plants which bloom very little. Some of my delicate 50s floribundas have better rebloom.
Discussion id : 70-253
most recent 4 MAR 13 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 3 MAR 13 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I find myself often wondering whether any given rose is self cleaning when looking at selection criteria.

It's a characteristic you might consider adding to those already listed.

Thanks, Robert
Reply #1 of 2 posted 4 MAR 13 by Patricia Routley
It is already there Robert. Go into Advanced Search> Growing> and you will find "Flowers drop off cleanly".
Reply #2 of 2 posted 4 MAR 13 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Thanks Patricia, now I wish more offered this additional information.

Best wishes, Robert
Discussion id : 62-370
most recent 3 MAR 12 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 3 MAR 12 by rosebliss
I'm a new member and wish to thank all who've submitted their own photos. It shows me what colors I'm apt to see in the garden, rather than rely on potentially altered photos in catalogs. I'll send in photos too and hope others will continue to do so (it's very helpful).
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