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Initial post yesterday by Pat Wallace zone 5a Illinois
I have tried Belinda's Dream twice in my garden. Nearly put one in again after hearing so much talk about it. The rose was indeed hardy here in the years that I had her. Crown hardy that is but not cane hardy. My problem with rose was constant balling then rotting of the flowers. I live where we have heavy dew during a lot of the growing season. Belinda's Dream could not over the obstacles here. It is difficult to grow most heavily petaled roses here. Thru the years I have managed to find some that open well
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Initial post yesterday by Unregistered Guest
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Initial post yesterday by Witchy
I have three of these. All own root. All 3 survived winter just fine here in zone 6b. (even the tiny one I rescued from my old house in SC, that had been mowed and moved in the middle of summer) With no protection. Dingo has told me Belinda's Dream survives in Chicago just fine as well. (Zone 5) This is a tough rose for me, and I'm no expert rose grower. Maybe it's a 5b iffy rose, but it definitely doesn't need zone 7 warmth. I would plant it if I lived in 5b and wanted it.
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Initial post 2 days ago by HubertG
From the Rosen-Zeitung Sep 1912, page 93 (Text accompanying coloured plate):

"Freiherr von Marschall (Teerose).
(Princesse Alice de Monaco x Rose d'Evian.)

Ueberall auf Rosenausstellungen, wo Rosen ausgepflanzt waren, hat man sicher auch eine Gruppe der Rose Freiherr von Marschall angetroffen. Die dunkelrote, hübsche Belaubung fiel immer schon von Weitem auf. Der Wuchs ist kräftig gedrungen. Die lange, spitze Knospe öffnet sich leicht zur gutgefullten Blume von dunkel-karminroter Farbe. Durch ihre
Reichblütigkeit eignet sie sich vorzüglich zur Gruppenbepflanzung. Die Wirkung einer solchen Gruppe ist großartig.

Die Rose "Freiherr von Marschall" eignet sich zu allen Zwecken; denn ebensogut wie sie als niedrige Rose ist, ist sie auch als Hochstamm. Aber auch als Schnittrose ist sie sehr zu schätzen. Sie remontiert gut. Auch im Winter ist sie nicht empfindlich. Herr Peter Lambert, Trier, hat 1903 diese Sorte dem Handel übergeben.
Da sie mit zu den besten Züchtungen gerechnet werden darf, verdient sie allgemeine Verbreitung."

My translation:

Everywhere at rose exhibitions, where roses were planted, one invariably finds a group of the rose "Freiherr von Marschall". The dark red, pretty foliage is always noticeable from a distance. The growth is vigorously robust. The long, pointed bud opens easily to the full double flower of dark carmine-red colour. Because of its
freedom of flowering it is excellent for group plantings. The effect of such a group is marvellous.

The rose "Freiherr von Marschall" is suitable for all purposes; It does as well as a bush rose as it does on a tall standard. Even as a cut rose it is very much appreciated. It repeats well. It is not even sensitive in winter. Mr. Peter Lambert, Trier, introduced this variety to commerce in 1903. Since it can be counted among the best of varieties, it deserves broad distribution.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 2 days ago by Patricia Routley
Thank you HubertG. Reference added.
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