Agreed. The Poulsen climber is too recent to have been part of the complex parentage. The ARS registration has a question mark after Flamenco. WE have modified this to McGredy's 1955 floribunda. Thank you for the heads up!
That's the same Flamenco (1950s version) other UK breeders used with Rosa bella, so I assume its correct. They seem to share species hybrids for their work.
Per Ping Lim, this rose is known as "Lone Star" in Texas. Also, it is named "dragon" because in Chinese culture a dragon symbolizes abundance. And I can vouch for the abundance of blooms this rose produces!
If thats in China, likely either a Chinese or French cultivar. Where is this, to help narrow it down? The foliage looks quite modern, but there are tons of cream HT roses out in the world.Also reminds me of some Harkness and various Netherlands types. Like probably not Caroline Victoria, but somewhat similar bloom color and foliage shape.
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Exactly, the leaves are too glossy or "modern" with the old-HT-like big flower
but it's grown with the old HTs such as Double Delight, Peace, Tiffany, Elle, Altesse 75 , Rouge Meilland, Dortmond, Broadway and so on, so it should be a relatively old one....the only "newer" one is Florentina(the red ADR climber from Kordes)
it's in a park in Beijing, and most parks in Beijing only grow the old HTs. Even David Austins are rare, so you can imagine the "list" is not very new...