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'America' rose Reviews & Comments
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3 APR 14 by
 goncmg
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Ok, I couldn't resist a waxed body bag of this one at Lowe's. It is MY color for sure! Never DID grow it! Intrigued by how the climbing trait threw back to paternal great-grandparents! HERE IS MY QUESTION: I THINKKKKK I am ok if I treat this one as more or less a pillar, a la Golden Showers and Joseph's Coat. Real, true climbers just do not really succeed in my climate even IF I pull them up, thether them, wear gloves and wheel them into the garage. It seems as much a growing season length as much as sheer temp???? At any rate, ADVICE! Kim? Dianne? John? ANYONE? Mea Nurseries DOES seem to label their body bags correctly so assuming I HAVE America and not something else, lol, as I head into this, am I "ok" seeing this as possibly a "big messy shrub demi-climbing pillar" ????????
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I had America in California and even there it grew like a large shrub, not a climber. Furthermore the canes are rather stiff. The color is nice and the flowers almost perfectly formed. It makes a nice, freestanding shrub and is almost always in flower during the growing season, and is a good variety for cutting.
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When I grew this rose, which then became something I really disliked, it did fine being treated like a tall grandiflora. Renaissance is in its place now, which is identical in size, and 10x more beautiful and carefree.
In other words, it does not to be trained on anything if pruned like a bush rose.
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#3 of 12 posted
7 JUN 14 by
goncmg
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Awesome info. I was hoping it would be basically a tall GR.
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I was looking for a photo I took about two years ago of a Cl. America growing in a planter outside a commercial building in Old Newhall, CA. It's an enormous free-standing bush topped by those brilliant blooms. It's grown there as long as I remember the area (easily thirty years). If it performs where you are as it has here, I would think you should be able to grow it free -standing.
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#5 of 12 posted
10 JUN 14 by
goncmg
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Great to hear from you, Kim! A deer, rabbit, chipmunk or Satan Spawn just yesterday ate my UC Davis budwood maidens and my "rescues" as in wax and bag as in Medallion, Intrigue, Perfume Delight, Oklahoma, Christian Dior (I KNOW! Right?!) and AMERICA all down to stubs or leafless near-stubs in the past 24 hours. So. Sigh. And laugh: yeah. Should I be lucky enough to even get a bloom on America this year, "free standing" would be optimistic! Gardening is the journey, eh? Not the destination. I will keep telling myself that!
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Thank you! Great hearing from you, too! Ouch! I'm sorry about the rabbit smorgasboard. Been there, NOT fun! Fortunately, rabbits haven't been eating my young plants, just Towhees (birds) digging up the seedlings. Blamed birds!
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Join the club. I used to have a vegetable garden. Now I have a groundhog buffet. The State of New York has decided to tear up the interchange where the groundhogs were living, so now they have moved into people's yards.
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Oh, no! I'm sorry! That's what frequently happens here with the gophers. The neighbor embarks on a "home improvement" or sells the place so a "McMansion" can be erected. Soil disturbance encourages the gophers to go where there is undisturbed soil, so YOU inherit them as you have ground hogs. Lucky us!
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We used to get moles. Then I made pathing from brick and mortar, and used river rock for the rose beds. This was intended to flow the direction of rain water from pooling in the winter, and to add garden intricate garden pathing. The moles suddenly disappeared, and now we suddenly have far more worms. Go figure.
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Good for you! The only thing that controlled the moles here is the poison I bought and finally used. I don't see any new tunnels and I'm loving it!
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#11 of 12 posted
13 JUN 14 by
Nastarana
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Gophers can be controlled with a good, hunting cat. The groundhogs, which are very cute when not eating one's garden, are bigger than cats, though I have seen cats stalking juveniles.
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All the cats, good hunters or not, are gone...coyotes. They don't do a very good job with moles, gophers and squirrels, though.
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Trouble free climbing rose, heathy, beautiful and fragrant. I like better than it's parent Fragrant Cloud
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In my garden, America produces beautiful coral colored blooms. I detect no fragrance. I bought it in a 2 gallon pot. After 2 years it was shooting up nice 6+ foot canes. This rose gets a lot of attention by passer-by's. Got black spot its first year, but then was fine in the following years.
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My humble comments here are just intended for organics growers who do not spray at all and who live in the BS black belt.... Climbing America gets moderate blackspot, but there are a few times when it looks pretty good and the BS is negligible. I looove this rose so much that I now have 2 in my garden-- I agree with NorthTexas that America is so photogenic! It is a prolific bloomer and the flowers get HUGE! It keeps its spiral very well.Fragrance will increase as the plant ages IMHO. In my locale, age of plant, it has good fragrance, though in its first year it wasn't as pronounced as it is now....
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I live in Zone 9A in Northern California and have 2 America bushes. They both have lots of buds this year, after performing only so-so in the previous years (when I didn't pay much attention to them). This spring, one has blackspot, the other is clean, though both are side by side and have been regularly sprayed. Go figure!
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#1 of 2 posted
19 APR 05 by
Anonymous-97434
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America is a climbing Hybrid Tea. It's common for climbers to require up to three years to develop into the plant they are genetically programed to be. If they've only been in the ground about three years, their not performing well up until now makes sense.
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It was bred from hybrid teas, but America was introduced as a climber. There is no hybrid tea version of this rose.
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