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'Spray Cécile Brunner' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 50-526
most recent 17 JUN 11 SHOW ALL
Initial post 11 DEC 10 by Rupert, Kim L.
The comment on the opening page about this rose having a "pepper fragrance" is the impression of the person who posted it. The scent most people I have discussed it with and to my nose, is identical to Mlle. Cecile Brunner. If you are questioning whether or not you want to grow the Spray mutation and basing it on fragrance, grab it! The scents are the same.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 17 JUN 11 by MelissaPej
I agree about the desirable fragrance. To my nose it's a sweet China scent with a touch of pepper, and I can smell it some feet away from the plant. This is a lovely rose in every way. It gets bigger than the six feet mentioned in the description; my largest plant is perhaps 7'x7', but I'll bet there are bigger ones than mine around. One thing I think worth mentioning is that it strikes me as a rose that doesn't take kindly to pruning, except in the case of damaged or old canes (or if the entire plant has been totally flattened by snow, and then it needs a couple of years to grow new canes); it seems best just to let it become the big vase shaped plant it wants to be.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 17 JUN 11 by Rupert, Kim L.
Agreed Melissa. The rose is half Tea and that class, as well as those which are closely related, depend upon that thick, old wood for their performance. Your advice about pruning is right one. Thanks! Kim
Discussion id : 34-879
most recent 30 APR 09 SHOW ALL
Initial post 17 MAR 09 by domenico67
Somebody doubts this is really a sport of the oricinal Mmlle Cecile Brunner, because flower, though very very similar, is maybe not completely identical, expecially in shape... but mostly because of the sepals, which are very different, much more elongated and foliated.
Anyway, if you have got enough room (this shrub is really huge, and continously spreads branchs and big clusters of flowers in every direction!), it's a gorgeous rose, blooming like a flower farm from spring to late fall (or winter, in milder climates). I think it's actually one of the most free-blooming rose ever, which is even more surprising to my opinion, because it is rare that a rose shrub of such big dimension has great reblooming potential.

In my country (Italy), its name is Bloomfield Abundance, but it's very often sold as "Cecile Brunner", under the description of the original "Mmlle Cecile Brunner". Given that this big shrub gets to an average 15 feet, while the latter can easily kept under 3 feet, you can just imagine the effects of this misidentification on our gardens, which are often very little...
Reply #1 of 11 posted 17 MAR 09 by Sandie Maclean
In Australia 'Spray Cecile Brunner' is often sold as 'Climbing Cecile Brunner'
I have four 'Spray Cecile Brunner' ordered from different nurseries that were supposed to be 'Climbing Cecile Brunner'.
Reply #2 of 11 posted 17 MAR 09 by domenico67
imagine if you plant four "Spray Cecile Brunner" in a group, believing you are planting a small group of four "M.mlle Cecile Brunner"!
Reply #3 of 11 posted 21 APR 09 by billy teabag
If you're interested in the study that includes a comparison of the DNA of the various forms of Mlle Cecile Brunner you can read it here:
Reply #4 of 11 posted 21 APR 09 by HMF Admin

Please note you can now add article to HMF by providing a website link. Ideally, you would add this link (new publication) and include a brief synopsis.

Reply #5 of 11 posted 22 APR 09 by billy teabag
Now added to publications - perhaps you could check to see if it is entered as it should be?
Reply #6 of 11 posted 23 APR 09 by Cass
It's perfect, Billy.
Reply #7 of 11 posted 23 APR 09 by HMF Admin
Well, actually it's not working correctly - you should be able to link directly to the article. It's a system error we are working on and expect to have resolved soon.
Reply #8 of 11 posted 24 APR 09 by jedmar
I understand from the article that the tested 'Bloomfield Abundance' was identical to 'Spray Cécile Brunner', but is it the same BA outside of USA? This photo from Argentina seems to have larger blooms than CB:
Reply #9 of 11 posted 24 APR 09 by Cass
North American and European plants were compared.
Reply #10 of 11 posted 29 APR 09 by HMF Admin
Hi Billy,

Somethings take longer then others... We finally got around to this. Take a look now - this is how it is supposed to work. Let us know what you think. Thanks !
Reply #11 of 11 posted 30 APR 09 by billy teabag
It works perfectly.
Thank you!
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