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'Colette' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 107-126
most recent 26 DEC HIDE POSTS
Initial post 25 DEC by Witchy
I believe the zone information is incorrect. According to Northland Rosarium, this is zone 5.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 26 DEC by jedmar
'Colette' seems to be even in several gardens in Russia in Zone 4a. However, the protection measures they undertake there are unbelievable!
Discussion id : 12-202
most recent 2 JUN 17 SHOW ALL
Initial post 12 MAY 06 by Unregistered Guest

Hi, How does your Colette grow? Vigorous? Lots of flowers? How often is the repeat? Is it Leggy? Would it bloom in lots of humidity in july and august? thanks so have a fabulous rose list! terry
Reply #1 of 8 posted 15 MAY 06 by Rupert, Kim L.

I've only been exposed to three plants of this rose, and all three were in one garden along the coast here in Southern California, where there is little difference between summer and winter temperatures (compared to those inland) and there is fairly constant humidity. Based upon how those three plants performed, I never wanted to grow it anywhere else. The petals were too soft to deal with the humidity, losing color and balling terribly in one day. There wasn't much fragrance (likely due to the conditions being too damp and cool), but what there was, deteriorated into a foul smelling glob of sogginess. The year they were in the garden, there was constant mildew with bursts of black spot and rust. Yes, I know climbers require up to three years to come into their own and develop into decent plants. All three of these were planted as fifteen gallon plants, with between seven and eight feet of growth on them, so they were fairly mature specimen. PERHAPS, they may have improved with time, but neither the home owner nor I was willing to put up with how disappointing this rose was in that location.

It's not the same color, but acceptable for this installation, and it's not as double, therefore not the same look as his wife originally wanted, but the three Collette were replaced with three Spice so Nice, which have been phenomenal! They're constantly in bloom; have good fragrance and are bullet proof in this location, with absolutely no disease, even though no cultural practices used on the Collettes were changed for Spice so Nice. The difference between the two roses performances are due entirely to the superior characteristics and suitability of Spice so Nice for these conditions.

Reply #5 of 8 posted 3 JAN 13 by rose dabbler
Hi Kim,

What a coincidence...I was abbout to buy Colette to plant near my own Spice so Nice! As you know, the Spice So Nice has a much bolder coloration, and it IS healthy and beautiful and now around 18 feet tall (therefore I cannot bear ro get rid of it) but the orange tones in newly opened spice are stronger than I thought they would be when I planted it. (I love the softer two-day-old blooms.) I have an 1890's cottage, and love the old rose look...but with just a BIT more punch. I also have The Impressionist nearby. I thought the warm peachy pink of Colette between the two orange/gold/apricot climbers might bring some old-fashioned pink softness without clashing or contrasting too much. Can you think of another large bush/short climber similar in color and form to Colette that i might use that would do well in high humidity? I live in Western Maryland and the rose would be in a full-sun, south-facing, protected spot. I would be happy to e-mail you a photo (tried to upload photos to helpmefind but for some reason had trouble doing so.) THANK YOU!
Reply #6 of 8 posted 3 JAN 13 by Rupert, Kim L.
Hi Cynthia, Colette may or may not do well where you are. I don't know how much of the issues here along the coast were humidity related and how much was the lack of heat. In Malibu where they grew, "hot" was high seventies, low eighties. What's "hot" where you are? Black spot resistance is something I can't comment on because they've identified FIVE strains of black spot across the US. The "brand" I have is likely not the same one you have so what remains clean here may collapse under that pressure for you.

You might look at something like Westerland or Autumn Sunset. Not as double, but durable in most places and in similar coloring with great scent. They can be grown as shrubs or, left lightly to unpruned, develop into shorter climbers. Garden Sun might also be something which might be suitable. Conard Pyle, its introducer, states it has good disease resistance and cold hardiness.

I am leaning more toward the recent introductions rather than OGRs because they are easily available budded, so you'll have a leg up on growth and they may be more disease resistant and cold hardy in your climate. I hope it helps! Good luck.
Reply #7 of 8 posted 31 MAR 16 by LaurelZ
When you replace any rose it get less fungal the first year. The real test would be how does Spice So Nice preform long term? Spice So Nice is a completely different color and not as pretty as Colette. And my Colette does great in San Francisco. In fact, it has much less fungal then any other of my roses in San Francisco. I do spray, but still Colette was the best performer. All of them were sprayed, but only Colette looks completely clean in the leaves with no signs of rust, black spot or powdery mildew.
Reply #2 of 8 posted 28 MAR 07 by eve
I've got two Colette and the places they are planted at are very different in soil quality. The better the better! The one's planted in a deeper soil is much more vigorous than the other.Still; even the one planted in the poor soil is a beautiful bush of 5 feet heights. Its secon flush is less generous than the firts, yet... Its a robust beautiful rose with very charming, delicate colour. I am glad t ohave her in my garden, even though I prefer old roses, she has practically all those qualities..Grettings, Eve
Reply #3 of 8 posted 5 MAR 08 by Unregistered Guest
mine is about 4yrs and it rarely bloom. I planted on the other side of the rose arbor, it recieved plenty of water and sunshine, but I thinks I only see it bloom once. I wonder what I have done wrong?
Reply #4 of 8 posted 5 MAR 08 by Henrique Rodrigues Vivián
I'm glad you are going well.
Reply #8 of 8 posted 2 JUN 17 by buckeyesouth
Very disappointed in this rose. It wilts quickly in the heat and also dislikes humidity. A so-so in terms of vigor. It has managed to survive and bloom regularly, but requires perfect weather to make a display.
Discussion id : 93-116
most recent 31 MAY 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 31 MAY 16 by Desertgarden561

How thorny is Colette? Is anyone successfully growing it as a shrub versus climber?
Reply #1 of 1 posted 31 MAY 16 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I've tried that. It was too prickly for me but then you may have more space than I do.
Discussion id : 14-412
most recent 29 MAR 16 SHOW ALL
Initial post 9 OCT 06 by gardenfever

The main page states that Colette is medium pink but the photos look to me like it's more of an apricot blend. 

Is it really pink or apricot?

Reply #1 of 3 posted 10 OCT 06 by Rupert, Kim L.
Rose pigments, being living tissue, vary greatly depending upon a variety of, soil type, heat, nutrient levels, plant condition, location, time of year, time of day, etc. THEN, you have the vagaries of photography as well as light quality with all their issues. In my experience, Collette is more often in apricot tones, but it CAN appear pretty uniform pink. That's what makes identifying roses from photographs such a buggaboo. Unless form or some other characteristic is so obvious, mis identifications are extremely easy to make. Kim
Reply #2 of 3 posted 28 MAR 16 by LaurelZ
It is a light pink, like the pink panther that sometimes has dark pink accents. Having looked at the photos in which it appears Apricot, I noticed both of them are from Europe. I don't see any of the apricot pink ones in the USA. I think the Apricot is also perfectly nice, but is it possible the ones in Europe are a different rose?
Reply #3 of 3 posted 29 MAR 16 by Patricia Routley
The U.S. Patent says:
Color (when opening begins): Upper surface: near Azalea Pink, Red Group 38A, and more or less suffused with Geranium Lake, Red Group 47D, with the edges commonly being near Empire Rose, Red Group 48D.
Color (when blooming): Upper surface: near Red Group 55D on the external petals and Coral Pink, Red Group 38D, suffused with Empire Rose, Red Group 48D, on the internal petals.
Color (at end of opening): upper surface: near Red Group 55D on the external petals and Coral Pink, Red Group 38D, suffused with Empire Rose, Red Group 48D, on the internal petals.

These colors intimate to me that ‘Colette’ started off life in her European apricot dress.
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