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'Pride of England' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 37-522
most recent 1 AUG 14 SHOW ALL
Initial post 24 JUN 09 by Jeff Britt
Looking at the photos here, I am perplexed by the bloom form and exhibition ratings left by someone. I'm not an expert, but this looks to have exceptional form, especially for exhibition.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 1 AUG 14 by Michael Garhart
Current fad for exhibitors is: REALLY long stems. VERY round blooms. MASSIVE dimeters. And pin-pint center.

Pride of England is star-shaped, which they loathe.

Their tastes come and go over time, and its widely meaningless, and a huge reason for toxic chemical usage. Anything for that win, ya know. That arbitrary ideal.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 1 AUG 14 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
That's the reason I quit going to rose shows.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 1 AUG 14 by Michael Garhart
That is one of the two reason I quit as an exhibitor.

I started very young, and I mostly saw people 2x, 3x, and 4x my age acting like children for that win and being nasty to each other. And then there was the insincere joking. Not my thing. I was not raised that way.

The other thing was that the reason for rose shows is to promote the rose. So, here we have 'Pride of England', as a good example. It was one of the easiest and best red HTs I have even grown in my entire life. I would call it the Knock Out of red HTs. It would do very poorly at shows. Rose shows are NOT about the promotion of the flower we all love. And they certainly do not educate the common public they are showing to. Master Gardeners, in contrast, have public talks that do, however. I would do a few shows if pesticides were completely prohibited and all rose classes had the potential to be best of show/Queen, etc. Until then, they are not authentically promoting the rose to the American public.
Discussion id : 56-661
most recent 14 AUG 11 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 14 AUG 11 by Mike Anders
Available from - Heirloom Roses
Discussion id : 50-661
most recent 16 DEC 10 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 15 DEC 10 by Penelope
If anyone knows where this can be purchased in the US, please post. Heirlom roses no longer sell it.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 16 DEC 10 by Rosaholic's Southern California Garden
Wisconsin Roses currently has it on their "small quantities" list, i.e. roses that are not in the regular catalog but of which they have small quantities available for sale.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 16 DEC 10 by Penelope
Discussion id : 22-227
most recent 24 OCT 07 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 24 OCT 07 by John Moody
I am totally amazed at the vigor this Pride of England red hybrid tea rose displays as a bush alone and in it's flowering. I started it as a budded maiden in Spring 2007 and it has literally taken over it's spot in the garden. The bush has an excellent bushy yet upright growth habit that allows it to bloom immensely and freely. I counted 28 single blooms on this bush during it's third flush of the year. It produces masses of roses that last two weeks on the bush and then drops petals rather cleanly. It cycles very quickly and I have another whole round of blooming about 4 weeks later. The bush needs plenty of room to spread to accomodate it's heavy foliage growth. Visitors to the garden are drawn to this rose for it's sheer imposing appearance covered with flowers. The foliage is a beautiful dark green that are a perfect foil to the medium cherry red blooms that are of very nice size and have a light fresh fragrance I find very attractive. I think this should be more widely grown for a garden rose as you won't find any better of a red rose for your garden. It can also produce exhibition quality blossoms that have excellent size, pinpoint centers, and long stems as well. Try this one, you will definiteley like it in your rose garden.
UPDATE 2009--This rose continues to be an exceptional garden rose. It is constantly loaded in blooms of good form and size and a fresh fragrance. The bush is extremely winter hardy and grows vigorously reaching about 5 1/2' tall quickly and then starts blooming it's head off in the Spring. This rose is way under-recognized by rosarians. It should be more popular and grown more widely. This is a great one for sure.
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