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'Martine Guillot ®' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 54-646
most recent 23 DEC SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 30 MAY 11 by Simon Voorwinde
Lineage:

"Origin and Breeding Controlled pollination. Seed parent ‘New Dawn’ x pollen parent ((‘Chaucer’ x ‘Aloha’) x (‘Iceberg’ x “unnamed seedling”))"

Ref: http://pericles.ipaustralia.gov.au/pbr_db/docs/2001265.doc
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Reply #1 of 12 posted 31 MAY 11 by HMF Admin
Thank you.
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Reply #2 of 12 posted 14 OCT 11 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
I suspect but can't confirm the 'Iceberg' shown in this lineage is incorrect and should be the more common floridunda version 1958.
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Reply #3 of 12 posted 14 OCT 11 by HMF Admin
Thanks Robert.
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Reply #4 of 12 posted 14 OCT 11 by Simon Voorwinde
What was it before? I assumed the 'Iceberg' in the lineage I posted would automatically be entered as the common Kordes, 1958, version.
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Reply #5 of 12 posted 14 OCT 11 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
It was entered as Kordes 2002 florists version, which is highly unlikely since this rose was introduced in 1991.

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.36436
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Reply #6 of 12 posted 1 JAN 15 by Michael Garhart
Its essentially just New Dawn x Graham Thomas. The way the parentage is listed is really odd. Its hard to fathom the breeder followed the same pathway as Austin did, lol. But yeah. Definitely the well-known Iceberg.
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Reply #7 of 12 posted 18 JUN 16 by Daniel Alm
The notes in the description of this rose should be updated to say that the pollen parent was most likely Graham Thomas. The parentage is "New Dawn X Graham Thomas," as proposed by Michael Garhart. ~Benaminh
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Reply #8 of 12 posted 18 JUN 16 by Michael Garhart
By the same breeder, Sonia Rykel follows the same pattern. Yet, two other roses by the same breeder simply say 'Graham Thomas'.
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Reply #9 of 12 posted 18 JUN 16 by Daniel Alm
I request that the HMF admins just add a note at the bottom of the description tab stating that Graham Thomas is the likely pollen parent versus changing the official parentage hot link. Saves us time having to look at all the progeny of Charles Austin (Chaucer X Aloha) and Iceberg to reach the same conclusion. ~B.
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Reply #10 of 12 posted 19 JUN 16 by Patricia Routley
Done. I know you will also be using the PARENTAGE TREE in LINEAGE
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Reply #11 of 12 posted 21 DEC by jedmar
The Breeder confirmed in a personal message that 'Graham Thomas' is the pollen parent of 'Martine Guillot and 'Sonia Rykiel'
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Reply #16 of 12 posted 23 DEC by Duchesse
Pleased to hear this. Martine and Sonia are doing great in my garden.
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Discussion id : 124-937
most recent 11 JAN 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 11 JAN 21 by Ericchn
The website of Guillot Rose declares that Martine Guillot has excellent resistance to blackspots :

“Et pour parfaire toutes ses qualités, la rose Générosa® Martine Guillot® offre un parfum intense et un feuillage vert parfaitement résistant aux maladies. C’est un modèle de résistance à la principale maladie du rosier, la Tâche Noire ou Marsonia dans les instituts de recherche. ”

So why in the description page it is marked “susceptible to blackspot”?
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Discussion id : 95-221
most recent 4 OCT 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 OCT 16 by Give me caffeine
Available from Swiss Garden nursery in Perth: http://www.swissrosegarden.com/r651/martine-guillot-roses-perth
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Discussion id : 95-220
most recent 4 OCT 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 OCT 16 by Give me caffeine
Available from Ladybird roses: http://ladybirdroses.com.au/martine-guillot
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