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'Gypsy Lass' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 107-502
most recent 18 JAN 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 18 JAN 18 by Margaret Furness
I was concerned some time ago that The plant labelled "Moyes' rich winey" at Renmark was a mislabel. This has been confirmed by other observers; so I will remove it from the HRIAI listing.
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Discussion id : 107-205
most recent 29 DEC 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 DEC 17 by Patricia Routley
After 16 years of gently searching for the correct identification, it gives me great pleasure to merge "Moyes Rich Winey", (and add a synonym of "Eva May") with 'Gipsy Lass' 1931.

"Moyes Rich Winey", a West Australian foundling, was originally from the Moyes and Wheatley families, Bridgetown. The age of the property was estimated as being early 1900s. This rose was shown to Patricia Routley by Maureen Scherini in May, 2001 and was growing inside a fenced compound along with some grapes. Cuttings were successful.

"Eva May" was a rose in a relative's garden and conserved by Margaret McKenzie, near Perth. It was study named after her grandmother and grown on as a cutting by Patricia Routley. It had been in situ "between 1940-1987". Although growing at a fair distance from"Moyes Rich Winey" in Patricia's garden, they appeared to be the same rose.

It is the same rose as one which came with the house and conserved by George and Jacqui Davies in Guildford, and who also have a pot of "Eva May".

Margaret and Jacqui have read the references for 'Gipsy Lass' and agree that this is a correct identification for their roses.
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Discussion id : 97-668
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Initial post 21 FEB 17 by billy teabag
Extra refs.
Hazlewood Bros catalogue 1933
New Roses 1933
GIPSY LASS (H.T.) (Alex. Dickson & Sons, 1932). - Rich scarlet crimson with blackish shading; full, globular, lasting; foliage hard and disease resisting. Vigorous growth, free and perpetual bloomer, strong, pronounced true rose perfume. Price 4/- each.
[Hazlewood's notes: "Growth good, colour very good. Sweet fruit scent. Should be a splendid garden rose. 66 petals.")

Hazlewood Bros catalogue 1934
New Roses 1933
GIPSY LASS (H.T.) (Alex. Dickson & Sons, 1932). F. 3. - Rich scarlet crimson double globular flowers with a very pronounced sweet scent. The blooms are of medium size, while the growth is upright and somewhat slender. E.

Hazlewood Bros catalogue 1935 p56
GIPSY LASS (H.T.) (Alex. Dickson & Sons, 1932). F. 3. - Rich scarlet crimson, double globular flowers of medium size and tall upright growth. A splendid garden rose. Sweet scent. Recommended. E.

Hazlewood Bros catalogue 1936 p56
GIPSY LASS (H.T.) (Alex. Dickson & Sons, 1932). F. 3. - Rich scarlet crimson, double, globular flowers of medium size and tall, upright growth. A welcome addition to the red garden roses. Highly recommended. Very sweet scent. E.

ditto 1937 p56, 1938 p58,

Hazlewood Bros catalogue 1939 p54
GIPSY LASS (H.T.) (Alex. Dickson & Sons, 1932). F. 3. - Rich scarlet crimson, double, globular flowers of medium size and tall, upright growth. A welcome addition to the red garden roses in spite of the somewhat weak foliage. Highly recommended. Very sweetly scented. E.

Hazlewood Bros catalogue 1940 p35
GIPSY LASS (H.T.) (Alex. Dickson & Sons, 1932). F. 3. - Rich scarlet crimson, double, globular flowers of medium size and tall, upright growth. A welcome addition to the red garden roses in spite of the somewhat weak foliage. Recommended. Very sweetly scented. E.

ditto 1941 p22

Alex. Dickson & Sons, Ltd. catalogue 1938-9 p 20
Gipsy Lass (H.T.) By Dicksons of Hawlmark, 1932. Rich scarlet crimson with blackish shading. Full, moderately large flower, but short petalled. Free banching habit, carrying the blooms on long erect stems. A Rose with rich colour, pronounded fragrance and excellent growth. V.H. [very highly perfumed]
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Reply #1 of 6 posted 21 FEB 17 by Patricia Routley
You want some more? It sounds as though this rose is invaluable for hot Australian conditions. And its 1932 date makes it a heritage rose. I haven't even tackled the books yet.

1933 American Rose Annual
p149. Proof of the Pudding. Gipsy Lass HT. (A. Dickson, 1932). A.R.A. 1933. Two roses of this name are extant. The Dickson variety is reported by Ontario to be an interesting, deep velvety red flower, exquisitely shaped, as a rule. ….
p172. New Roses of the World. Gipsy Lass (Gypsy Lass). HT. (A. Dickson & Sons, 1932) Bud ovoid; flower full, double, globular, very lasting, intensely fragrant, rich scarlet-crimson with blackish shading, on long, willowy stem. Foliage leathery. Vigorous, upright, bushy; abundant, continuous bloomer.

1933 Australian Rose Annual
p51-5 Harry H. Hazlewood. The New Roses of 1933. Red….The best undoubtedly Gipsy Lass (A. Dickson and Son). It has good, deep crimson colour, which lasts particularly well, and is highly endowed with rich, sweet perfume. On occasions it will be up to exhibition standard, but so far it promises best as a good garden variety.
p119-4 Mr. Allan Brundrett. Gipsy Lass (A. Dickson) appears to be the most promising of the red varieties of this season’s novelties. It is hardy, and has long stems and plenty of petals (about eighty) and the rich and dark scarlet crimson colour lasts well. Its only drawback is its short petals, but this may improve on established plants.

1933 The Rose Annual
p71. Herbert Cowley. The Spring Rose Show. Other new roses worthy of special mention were: Gypsy Lass, a deep velvety crimson of rich and delicious fragrance.

1934 Australian Rose Annual
p76 C. C. Hillary. Hot-Weather Roses. Gipsy Lass is a gay thing and well named. The growth is good and flowers are produced in abundance. Sometimes the stems are weak, but this weakness is forgiven when its delightful fragrance charms our senses.
p125 Mr. John Poulsen, Christchurch. NZ. Gipsy Lass Foliage and growth have been good and the flowers which are very full and lasting, carry a good perfume. It seems a garden red of promise, which will need good cultivation to be seen at its best.
129 Mr. H. Wilson, of the firm of Wilson and Johns Ltd. Gipsy Lass This Rose has come to stay. Fairly tall, and Roses, when open, have no centre, which makes it a fine decorative type; fine, dark red colour.

1935 Australian Rose Annual
p95 Frank Mason. New Zealand Roses. Gypsy Lass is an outstanding Rose for colour, and one of the best red bloomers for two seasons. Although the shape is not strictly exhibition, some of the blooms are good enough, but as a cut flower it stands out alone.

1936 Australian Rose Annual
p66 Frank Mason. Roses in New Zealand Gypsy Lass is a fine bedding Rose and will be a favourite in gardens.
p122, Mr. O. P. Fry. Interesting Notes From Nedlands, W.A. One rose in particular has caused amazement - Gypsy Lass. It has come through days of excessive heat without shrivelled blooms (end of January). It is the only bush in my garden to put up such a record. To show that this was no fluke, the performance was repeated through a second burst of heat. It must be a point of constitutional merit worth noting. And the dark red velvety flowers of rich scent make ‘Gypsy Lass’ a good friend in the garden.

1937 Australian Rose Annual
p68-5 T. G. Stewart. A Rose Reverie. As I continue on, and the thought of the child lingers with me, I come to Gipsy Lass, with her striking red, full-bodied bloom and carefree growth, and though she does not flaunt her colour to the extent of ‘Angele Pernet’ or ‘Cuba’, her name seems very applicable. Although vital, hers is not the beauty of the child, but something more mature. There is nothing retiring about her, and she has that free independent air of the gipsy.
74-10 Harry H. Hazlewood. Some Better Roses 1930-1936. Red: (8) Gipsy Lass. A fine upstanding garden variety with fully double deep crimson blooms with very rich fragrance.
124-1 Mr. O. P. Fry. Roses that Last Well. ….Gipsy Lass blooms stand up to the direct sunshine in Perth. They do not show any sign of burning on the hottest days. Two days in succession of 98 and 99 degrees in the shade, following other days only a few degrees lower, mean a direct sun temperature of about 150 degrees! It would be interesting if some plant pathologist would explain what peculiar characteristic such plants possess as against those whose flowers shrivel in the space of a few hours, all other conditions being equal, of course; by that I mean soil, watering and situation in the garden. If ‘Gipsy Lass’ is related to ‘Etoile de Hollande’ then some of the mystery is solved, for the latter Rose displays the same resistance to hot sunshine.

1939 Australian Rose Annual
p121-8 Mr. W. L. Summers, Blackwood, S.A. Gipsy Lass A first-class garden Rose; free flowering and vigorous. Flowers rather flat, but colour stands the heat well.
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Reply #2 of 6 posted 21 FEB 17 by billy teabag
This is excellent Patricia. Thank you! Jacqui is investigating this as a possible identity of one of the roses growing at Araluen. The information about how well it copes with heat is going to be really useful.
If it proves to be 'Gipsy Lass', there will be some photos for this entry.
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Reply #3 of 6 posted 21 FEB 17 by Patricia Routley
I'll search some more. The references have made me think of "Moyes Rich Winey" but there is one photo of a bloom singeing.
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Reply #4 of 6 posted 6 DEC 17 by Patricia Routley
I have added more references for 'Gipsy Lass'. On careful perusing, I now believe my foundling "Moyes Rich Winey" is 'Gipsy Lass' and am considering merging these two files later on.
Margaret - what happened to the four plants of "Moyes Rich Winey" (your email Sep 1, 2015). Has anybody had further thoughts on the identification?

Billy - How are you going on the rose at Araluen?
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Reply #5 of 6 posted 6 DEC 17 by Margaret Furness
One was planted at Ruston's, D93 in the north bed. I thought it was a mislabel because it was behaving like a climber, but I see that Gipsy Lass was tall-growing.
I don't have records of the others - may have given them to HRIAI members or to bushfire victims.
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Reply #6 of 6 posted 6 DEC 17 by Patricia Routley
For Heritage Roses members, keeping records is almost as important as keeping the roses themselves.
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