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'Zéphyrine Drouhin' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 160-207
most recent 5 FEB HIDE POSTS
Initial post 4 FEB by Bug_girl
Best Rose Guide by Phillips & Rix pg. 115 lists synonyms for Zephirine Drouhin as the following:
'Belle Dijonnaise', 'Ingegnoli Prediletta', and 'Mme Gustave Bonnet'
Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 FEB by jedmar
We have listed 'Charles Bonnet' as a synonym. 'Mme Gustave Bonnet' is white and definitely not a synonym. The other two are questionable.
Discussion id : 154-351
most recent 12 DEC HIDE POSTS
Initial post 10 DEC by Bug_girl
I've had this rose for 8 years. The buds are the most gorgeous perfect pointed rosebuds. They are never flat.
Reply #1 of 5 posted 10 DEC by Lee H.
Do you get much repeat from yours? I don’t, and that’s the only reason I can’t really fall in love with her.
Reply #2 of 5 posted 11 DEC by Bug_girl
Not a ton, but that might be my fault for not fertilizing again to prompt another flush. I have never had a big second flush. The first is stunning!
Reply #3 of 5 posted 11 DEC by Lee H.
Yes, indeed!
Reply #4 of 5 posted 11 DEC by Patricia Routley
Bug_girl, the description of flat-topped buds came from merging a foundling rose, “Davies Sleep Out Rose” with Zephirine Drouhin. As the petals start to unfold, I did notice they seemed to be all at the same level. (See my photo uploaded 16 Oct 20.) However, I agree that this description of flat topped buds might be a bit confusing and have deleted it.
Reply #5 of 5 posted 12 DEC by Bug_girl
Thank you for the update
Discussion id : 118-514
most recent 12 JAN 22 SHOW ALL
Initial post 27 SEP 19 by J.E.Leahy
I saw this rose at Peta's garden in April 2019 in full bloom and think it looks like Manou Meilland
Reply #1 of 7 posted 27 SEP 19 by Patricia Routley
Many thanks for that possible identification Judy. At this stage ‘Manou Meilland’ bred before 1977 seems too modern (and too double), (later edit - and too short) but I will certainly keep ‘Manou Meilland’ in mind when my bush blooms this spring. When my own-root bush settles down, it may produce more petals.
Reply #2 of 7 posted 10 JAN 22 by Patricia Routley
Judy, I suspect this rose is ‘Zephirine Drouhin’.
Reply #3 of 7 posted 10 JAN 22 by Margaret Furness
Looks like the right unsubtle colour.
Reply #4 of 7 posted 11 JAN 22 by J.E.Leahy
The rose I saw flowering at Peta Zadow's garden 2 years ago was a much large, looser bloom than Zepherine Drouhin with translucence in the petals , slight yellow/peach at the base of the petals. My Zepherine Drouhin is a solid colour deep rose carmine.
Reply #5 of 7 posted 11 JAN 22 by Patricia Routley
Just to double check….. do you know of "Sunshine House Pink HT" which has been thought to be ‘Red Radiance’. There is a HelpMeFind file for this rose. As I recall, it was on the west side of Peta’s side steps, with the creamy ‘Mrs. Harold Brocklebank’ on the east side of the steps.

I am growing “Sunshine House Pink HT” (possibly ‘Red Radiance’) not too far from the “Davies Sleep Out Rose” (possibly Zephirine Drouhin’).
I have read the references for Zephirine Drouhin’ and the very dilated stipules (1895), large foliage (1899), base white (1993) and reddish tinge of young leaves (1996) all seem to indicate that the “Davies Sleep Out Rose” might well be ‘Zephirine Drouhin’.
However, there is one puzzling reference (1896, page 6) that the “buds are long stalked”.

If anybody can offer insight on what the “Davies Sleep Out Rose” may be, I would be grateful.
Reply #6 of 7 posted 12 JAN 22 by J.E.Leahy
I am absolutely sure Davie's Sleep Out Rose is Zepherine Drouhin - it is the same in every way to the rose I am familiar with. The buds are long and pointed and possibly in an environment where the plant gets more rain the bud stems would be longer. Here where our average rainfall is around 300mm the bud stems are shorter. In the heat of summer the flowers fade out to pale pink/white very quickly. New canes are gold to red and the new growth is distinctly red. NO PRICKLES!!
There is another rose which grows around the Kojonup to Mount Barker region of a similar colour but I am convinced it is a Hybrid Perpetual (unnamed)
Reply #7 of 7 posted 12 JAN 22 by Patricia Routley
Good. I am glad you are sure. I am too and have merged “ Davies Sleep Out Rose” wth ‘Zephirine Drouhin’.
Discussion id : 128-048
most recent 6 JUN 21 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 6 JUN 21 by Lesky
I'm in US 5b/6a, and have a five-year-old plant of Zephirine Drouhin that has always consistently bloomed with the typical intense cerise color--major spring bloom with spotty rebloom through the summer. This spring I have been amazed at what has happened with my plant. It is sporting all over the place, not just with the candy pink 'Kathleen Harrop' looking sport, but with the much lighter 'Martha' looking sport, some mottled blooms, and some blooms that are darker than KH but lighter than ZD. And there are numerous sports all over the plant! I can't find any information on whether this is typical of ZD when she sends out sports, or if it is unusual for there to be so many at one time? Does anyone have an idea about that?

I'm including a couple photos-one when the blooms were budding, and one since they have opened.
Reply #1 of 1 posted 6 JUN 21 by Nastarana
A mottled sport of ZD sounds very interesting indeed. I live in a 5b location nd always supposed I couldn't grow ZD, though I love her dearly, and KH as well.
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