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'Hovyn de Tronchère' rose Reviews & Comments
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25 MAY 22 by
 Margaret Furness
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I think there must be two roses in commerce as Hovyn de Tronchere, neither matching early descriptions.
As I read it, one is the same as "Lady Mary Fitzwilliam - in commerce as".
I'm told the other matches "Agnes Saffron's Early Tea".
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1 JUN 20 by
jennifer
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This rose looks like my and many pictures of Lady Mary Fitzwilliam. I'm wondering if my, perhaps all, Lady Mary Fitzwilliams, grown out there are actually this rose. LMF was supposedly a weak grower, very fragrant, and set hips. My LMF is about 3.5 feet tall, nearly scentless, and to my memory, does not set any hips.
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1 JUN 20 by
Patricia Routley
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Your rose is more likely to be Mrs. Wakefield Christie-Miller 1909 which only had one descendant from its pollen. This says to me that Mrs. Wakefield Christie-Miller did not set hips.
I now see your second Comment elsewhere in which you say you also have Mrs. Wakefield Christie-Miller. Sorry I can’t help further.
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21 APR 18 by
HubertG
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The Journal des Roses reference tells us that it is "issue de Règulus".
Whether it is the correct variety or not 'Hovyn de Tronchere' is listed at the Rose Antiche S'orrosa nursery.
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21 APR 18 by
Patricia Routley
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Thank you HubertG. We've added the parentage, (choosing the 1860 tea over the 1806 gallica 'Regulus').
Some of the photos in this file might be 'Lady Mary Fitzwilliam' (syn "Whittle Light Pink Tea").
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20 JAN 09 by
kai-eric
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specimens in commerce under this name not consistent with contemporary descriptions.
eventually an early hybrid tea.
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9 MAY 10 by
Cass
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Definitely true. This is identical to the rose collected in California under the study name "Whittle Light-Pink Tea." I grow both in my garden, and I believe that they are the same cultivar, not a Tea, but an early Hybrid Tea. Scentless.
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