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"Grandma's Hat" rose Reviews & Comments
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5 MAY 14 by
twinkletoad (zone 7B)
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This is one tough plant. I had a tiny plant with one basal planted in a terrible spot with too much shade. I dug it up and moved it twice, it looked like it would die for a few weeks but I continued to give it water soluble fertilizer. I checked it yesterday and it looked much healthier and even had a bloom and new growth.
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#1 of 1 posted
5 days ago by
 Camieux
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How is your Barbara Worl/Grandmother’s Hat doing now? The exact same thing as you describe has happened to my Barara Worl. My mail ordered plant was a spindly stick. That was over 3 yrs ago. I found it during last year’s horrible drought looking very sad, but it did have some leaves. I replanted it in same area late last summer and am hoping it will survive. Thank you very much for your post. It has given me renewed hope.
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8 APR by
Jeri Jennings
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"Grandmother's Hat" is NOT the same as 'Molly Sharman-Crawford'.
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#1 of 5 posted
8 APR by
Kim Rupert
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That was one of the several potential identifications proposed by Bob Edberg based upon illustrations in old rose publications. Unfortunately, we'll never know just who it is. I sent bud wood of it to The Netherlands years ago in hopes someone there would be able to compare it to similar roses there. It hasn't ever happened.
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#2 of 5 posted
9 APR by
Jay-Jay
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Kim,
Maybe I might shine some light on that in a personal message.
Once I got delivered 3 the same unknown roses instead of Gruss an Aachen.
I wasn't familiar with Grandmother's Hat... and today I looked at some photo's on HMF of it and for me the "false delivered Gruss an Aachen" and G.H. were similar. I gave those plants away.
Best Regards, Jay-Jay.
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#3 of 5 posted
9 APR by
Kim Rupert
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Thanks, Jay-Jay. Good "seeing" you, by the way!
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#4 of 5 posted
9 APR by
Kathy Strong
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The rose exhibitor community has been showing Grandmothers Hat under the name “Cornet” for decades. “Found” roses are not allowed at most shows, and apparently someone did a comparison in the literature, and that was the best approximation to the found rose that is everywhere in California.
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#5 of 5 posted
9 APR by
Kim Rupert
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Another Bob Edberg effort. Bob's major effort was Limberlost Books. He found old colored plates he felt were sufficient matches for both of those identifications. And, it was based upon those plates he made them.
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6 JUL 19 by
roses257
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Available from - Annie's Annuals and Perrenials
www.anniesannuals.com
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11 FEB 13 by
timdufelmeier
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THE best HP in Los Angeles. It even reblooms throughout the year, even in winter, and if you don't bother to dead head it. It has long cutting stems with few thorns, quite unlike most HPs . I found it on 8th Street near McArthur Park in the oldest part of the city. It formed a nine foot tall hedge that was 10 ft wide growing in a neglected patch inside a gravel parking lot/yard in front of a decrepit old Victorian house that has been split into 15 units. It smells just like Jadis (Fragrant Memory.) Does not sucker much but roots easily. Beautiful self supporting giant canes with huge leaves. I believe that Kim was calling it Mrs Sharmon Crawford at that time (1991) I brought a slip to the Huntington for him to identify. Reblooms better than any HP or tea that I know of.
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#1 of 7 posted
26 MAR 17 by
Jeri Jennings
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Tim -- The original discovery of this rose was made in Altadena, CA, but I did not know that "Grandmother's Hat" had been found in Los Angeles!
I have often speculated that the old homes in that area might yield some interesting discoveries, and I'm interested to know that they have.
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#2 of 7 posted
20 FEB 19 by
Michael Garhart
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Rosa canina is wild here in NW Oregon, and you can see some growing with with patches of daffodils and in curious patterns in the wild (rectangles). In other words, it was the root stock of some very old roses planted around homesteads. There are likely some roses up here hiding away in the woods that are OGRs and similar.
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#3 of 7 posted
20 FEB 19 by
Jeri Jennings
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But "Grandmother's Hat" is not R. canina.
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#4 of 7 posted
20 FEB 19 by
Michael Garhart
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I know. I was responding to:
"I have often speculated that the old homes in that area might yield some interesting discoveries."
Meaning, there still could be things out there we haven't discovered EVEN up north (along the entire coast).
Rosa canina just signifies that there was a lot of roses planted in the areas, because it was the rootstock.
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#5 of 7 posted
21 FEB 19 by
Jeri Jennings
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You know, in Southern CA, I don't think there was a lot of R. canina -- what there WAS, providentially, was a lot of Fortuniana, and a lot of Ragged Robin. And as it happens, those are things that are still great roses here.
But your point is well taken.
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#6 of 7 posted
21 FEB 19 by
Michael Garhart
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I found New Dawn in a forest once. In the middle of nowhere lol. I also found some sort of OGR rambler in the forests of Vernonia, OR. I couldn't ID it. Almost looked like Baltimore Belle.
Like, literally in the nowhere in temperate rainforests lol.
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#7 of 7 posted
21 FEB 19 by
Jeri Jennings
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Usually, when you find something like that, it means that there was a house there once -- or at least a business. At least, in CA it does. Black locust trees where pioneers settled. Tree of Heaven where there were Chinese. At an old old stage stop in the Sierra Foothills, we found [probably] 'Hermosa', and a Mission fig tree!
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