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'Jean Desprez' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 5-010
most recent 22 MAR 19 SHOW ALL
Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Anonymous-797
I am new to growing roses. Last winter I spent many hours on the internet researching old roses and trying to decide which climbers to plant around my sunny, protected, south-facing, zone 6 porch. My little house was built in the 1880's so I hope to drape it in romantic old climbers.

I finally selected the delectable Jaune Desprez and Ghislaine de Feligonde and planted them in April 2003. Both plants are quite healthy and growing well (thanks to heaps of home-grown compost.) I didn't expect anything in the way of blooms the first summer but did get a few. Both plants produced a few tiny flowers (around one inch in diameter.) I was excited to see blooms, but a bit disappointed that the bloom color of both plants was creamy white...the pink/gold that I had been looking forward to was barely visible.

I read that both of these roses change color according to the weather...does the maturity of the plant affect size and the plants establish themselves will the golds, pinks and apricots appear? Is the color affected by the soil? If so, is there any amendment that can enhance the color? (I use organic methods only.)

Thank you for any information or suggestions for either Jaune Desprez or Ghislaine de Feligonde.

Also, I'm planning to plant another climbing rose on a nearby pillar, but want one that grows only 8 to 15 feet. I'd like a rose with similar or compatible colors that would look wonderful with the other two, but with contrasting deeper tones...either warm pink or apricot (not too orange, though.) I love flowers with a glowing, translucent quality. I'd prefer an old rose, but any rose with an old-rose look that can be grown organically would be OK... Suggestions?

Thank you,

Reply #1 of 4 posted 5 JAN 04 by Unregistered Guest
Jaune is a Noisette and the nature of most Noisettes is to start out a good colour and then quickly fade. This Rambler is not known as one with strong colours and will bleach out in full sun. Only a few things effect the colour of roses, mainly full hot sunshine, cool weather (such as early spring or fall) and of course the soil according to whether it is on the acid or lime side of the scale. Age usually doesn't have too much of an effect on colour except that the flowers can be smaller and so not show as much of the shades.
Ghislaine is another one that will bleach out in full sun. She starts out a beautiful shades of different colours and then quickly fades to a pale peach. The ideal situation for both of these roses is to be in an area where they get mainly morning and late afternoon sun and are sheltered from the hot overhead sun. It depends how warm your climate is but here are three climbers that do well and are really fragrant.
Compassion is a very fragrant climber which has peach flowers shaded pink.
Rhonda is a very full old fashion looking rose pink and is also very fragrant.
Rosy Mantle is another rose climber with a strong fragrance.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 15 APR 04 by Winterrobin
Hi Cynthia

As for a moderate climber, I would like to add "Aloha" to the list the Old Rosarian gave you.
It is a modern rose, but has the coloration you are looking for, and it is very fragrant.
Reply #3 of 4 posted 22 NOV 06 by Unregistered Guest
Crepuscule is simply gorgeous and the color you are looking for.  Barely any thorns, easily trained and one of my favorites.  Good luck!
Reply #4 of 4 posted 22 MAR 19 by Jackie13
Hi Anonymous,

I grow the climber Blossom Time. It is medium pink but the edges of the petals are a lighter silvery pink. Beautiful. Hardy to zone 5a, it grows a maximum of 15 ft. Some black spot at the end of summer. I love it in my 7b zone, NY. Good luck.
Discussion id : 108-940
most recent 15 MAR 18 SHOW ALL
Initial post 1 MAR 18 by Marigold
I have tried to get Jaune Dezprez from all these sellers. None of them have it.
One offered twice to grow it. Going on two years and still no rose.
I had this rose growing in my garden in southern california and it was such a delight.
I don't understand why no one grows it.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 1 MAR 18 by Jay-Jay
You might grow it Yourselves from cuttings.
One of the members in The States offers it for cuttings.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 1 MAR 18 by Patricia Routley
Marigold - are you saying that you have tried to buy it from all the twenty U.S. nurseries that HelpMeFind shows as carrying this rose?
Reply #3 of 3 posted 15 MAR 18 by Marigold
The Antique Rose Emporium has it and I have purchased one from them.
Mia coppa
Discussion id : 103-395
most recent 25 JUL 17 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 25 JUL 17 by Patricia Routley
1862 F. C. Davis, Reedbeds, near Adelaide
p13. Nois. Jaune Desprez Fawn and yellow, tinted with rose, very fragrant.
Discussion id : 88-943
most recent 29 OCT 15 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 29 OCT 15 by CybeRose
Annales de la Société d'Horticulture de Paris, 13: 206-207 (Sept 1833)

1°. Noisette-Desprez, Noisette jaune. C'est sous le premier de ces noms que M. Pirolle a décrit cette Rose dans les N°s d'août et septembre 1831 des Annales de la Société d'Agronomie pratique, et c'est sous le dernier nom qu'on en parle plus généralement dans le monde amateur de belles fleurs. On la doit à M. Desprez, propriétaire amateur, à Yèble, près Guignes (Seine-et-Marne); elle paraît être le résultat d'une graine du Bengale-Bourbon, fécondée par un Rosier-Noisette. M. Desprez n'a cependant donné aucun renseignement à cet égard; mais le port et la vigueur de la plante rappellent un Rosier-Bourbon, tandis que la fleur rappelle un Rosier-Noisette, et le tout constitue ce qu'on appelle un hybride.

[... it appears to be the result of a seed of the Bengal-Bourbon, pollinated by a Noisette rose. M. Desprez , however, has given no information in this regard; but the plant's carriage and vigor are reminiscent of a Bourbon, while the flower resembles a Noisette, and the whole is what is called a hybrid.]

La Noisette-Desprez est un arbrisseau vigoureux, se soutenant bien, et dont les aiguillons sont violàtres et épais; ses feuilles sont grandes, bien étendues, coriaces, d'un très beau vert luisant, à cinq folioles ovales, acuminées, bordées de dents émoussées et nombreuses, le pétiole commun est garni d'aiguillons en dessous, et le dessous de la nervure médiane de la foliole terminale est même assez souvent muni aussi de quelques aiguillons à la base quand les feuilles sont très grandes.

Fleurs terminales au nombre de trois à cinq sur chaque rameau, portées sur des pédicelles assez longs et assez flexibles pour qu'elles ne se nuisent pas réciproquement; les pédicelles sont purpurins, un peu pubescens, ainsi que les ovaires et les calices qui restent verts; les ovaires sont ovales-oblongs et les sépales peu ou point ailées; la fleur est pleine, large de 30 à 36 lignes, à pétales extérieurs larges, concaves et formant la soucoupe comme une Cent-Feuilles, à pétales inférieurs roulés en torsade, les uns et les autres d'un jaune-nankin ou ventre-de-biche lavé de rose dans la partie supérieure: l'odeur en est suave, et quelques personnes y trouvent celle d'un Ananas mûr.

On ne peut confondre cette Rose intéressante avec aucune autre, et elle conservera toujours une place distinguée dans les collections même les plus épurées.
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