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    most recent 7 JAN 08  
    RoseFrohsinn ® (hybrid tea, Tantau, 1982)
    Initial post 7 JAN 08 by Patricia Routley
    Re Joyfulness 1984.
    1982 or 1984?
    Reply #1 posted 7 JAN 08 by jedmar
    It is 1982. Modern Roses has both dates. Maybe 1984 was when Tantau registered it. Cass, isn't the earlier date more relevant?
    Reply #2 posted 7 JAN 08 by Cass
    This is nice illustration of how excessive data collection does not contribute any real insight. As best I can tell, Tantau introduced the rose in 1982 under the name FROHSINN 82. The rose was subsequently registered with the ARS as 'Tansinnroh'. Modern Roses has given different dates for the registration. Modern Roses 10 and XI say 1984, while Modern Roses 12 says 1985. I'll check with the registrar to see if she knows whether the changed date is a correction or a typo.
    Reply #3 posted 7 JAN 08 by Cass
    To answer your question directly, Behcet, I agree that Joyfulness should be noted as 1982 to be consistent.