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'Lady Ursula' rose Reviews & Comments
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Attention Marcir and Jean Harrison. You have posted photos of 'Lady Ursula' on Helpmefind in the past. Do you recall whether this rose sets hips?
Thanks.
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#1 of 9 posted
14 FEB 09 by
marcir
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My 'Lady Ursula' is a young band from Vintage and it only had a couple of blooms last year. No chance for hips yet. I shall leave some blooms on the plant this year to see.
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Thank you so much Marcir. Someone has said that the foundling "Pippie's Pottery Pink" (pictures on Helpmefind) may be 'Lady Ursula' and there is nothing in the literature about whether this rose does or doesn't set hips. "Pippies Pottery Pink" doesn't as a rule, but it has been known to set one or two.
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Marcir, Diane, AmiRoses, Calif Sue, Jean Harrison, anyone - does anyone have a picture or two of the whole plant of 'Lady Ursula'?
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I have this rose, own root, that I purchased from Vintage Gardens some years ago. It thrives in this climate even with lows slightly below zero some years. My understanding when I bought it was that it was an Ophelia sport, and that seems consistent with Ophelia and Madame Butterfly that I also grow, so I would love to know if that is an erroneous understanding. I will make a point of posting some good photos of the entire plant this year.
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Very much look forward to seeing them. Thank you Dianne.
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Dianne - did you ever get around to taking a photo of the entire plant?
Marcir and Jean Harrison - have you noted any information about hips on ‘Lady Ursula’?
Does anybody have a photo of the San Jose ‘Lady Ursula’ entire bush?
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#7 of 9 posted
12 NOV 20 by
 jedmar
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Marcir writes to me that her 'Lady Ursula' is unfortunately dead, and it had no hips.
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Thank you Jedmar. Unfortunate indeed.
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Patricia, my plant is still alive and healthy, but I forgot to take a good photo. It is winter here now. I will look to see if there are hips.
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In his 1912 catalogue, Hazlewood has omitted his 1911 words "of great substance" which says to me, that with time, the rose did not appear to have this trait. He often copied Dickson's wording and probably obtained roses from them.
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American Rose Annual 7: 25 (1923)
What New Roses Does America Need?
Mr. J. D. Eisele, the veteran rose expert in the firm of Henry A. Dreer, who has known of roses for a long lifetime, writes thus:
You are no doubt familiar with the rose Lady Ursula. Though it is not at all a striking rose, there is no other Hybrid Tea which under all weather conditions—warm, wet, dry, muggy, and all the other climatic trials we pass through in this part of the country during the summer—stands up so well as Lady Ursula. I have never seen it affected with black-spot. It has good foliage through the summer and is nearly always in flower. One of my associates looked over the garden of a gentleman near Philadelphia in which some two hundred varieties of roses were growing. The rose-raiser said to my friend, pointing to Lady Ursula, "This is the kind of a rose for the average amateur. It is always healthy and always in bloom."
For form of flower and stem, Los Angeles is my ideal. For fragrance, Mr. Howard's new Fragrant Bouquet is unequaled.
The new rose ought to be like Lady Ursula, plus the colors we want.
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lol, this poor rose has so many inconsistent references, other than its general color and class.
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Which is exactly why I had a little doubt about this identification for my six foundlings (all the same rose). This is a fairly common foundling throughout Australia. Have a look at the HelpMeFind file "Kew Cemetery Pink (Melbourne, Victoria)". If you have knowledge that would help us discount any of the possible identifications, that would be wonderful. Or perhaps if you have any old reference material for 'Lady Ursula'? In the meantime, I will search the old American Rose Annuals for more substantive information.
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I havent run across it in the ARS books I own. I own about half of them. It should be publicated more, though, as the breeder was very famous before our time.
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Discussing further. I've added the American references I was able to find and it is looking more and more like our "Kew Cemetery Pink" etc. foundlings are 'Lady Ursula'. Mistakenly, I thought searches in the U.K. and Australian literature would be enough. Wish I had looked in the old American Rose Annuals earlier. What do other Australians now think of the 'Lady Ursula' identification please?
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