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'Marie Nabonnand' rose Reviews & Comments
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I think the "copper highlights" in the description is a hangover from the time when it was being sold as M. Tillier. I didn't see that on my plant.
Very patchy in terms of success with cuttings: sometimes all of a batch would strike root, sometimes I'd lose the lot.
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I'm surprised this rose does not have in its description ''thornless [or almost]'' as my plant which is 6 x 10 foot own root from Roseraie du Desert, France originally... has almost none... I found two really tiny ones today and a few miniscule prickles on the back of some leaf stalks.. not even a single one at the base of the plant where one often finds them....
..I've found a larger thorn on Zephirine Drouhin... Kew Gardens has small ones on the back of leaf stalks and Beales Mme Berard had some thorns on a cane or two.. all these are described as thornless [or almost]..
..perhaps anyone who has this with a larger plant than mine, could confirm whether theirs is also virtually thornless... ?.. I do think it should be added to the main page for this rose...
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I do too Marlorena. So many of us have mentioned its lack of thorns in the past, so....thornless it is. It is just about the most perfect rose isn’t it? The only way it falls down is that it won’t strike for me in acid soil in Western Australia. I try every year and the last few today look as though they are struggling. I understand Margaret Furness in South Australia has wonderful success with propagating this rose - lucky lady.
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...thanks Patricia for that... yes I notice it grows huge in Australia and makes a magnificent specimen shrub... I don't think I need mine to be quite so large, so I'm happy with what I've got so far.. it's deserving of greater distribution...
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This rose has long since been discontinued in the UK... perhaps if it had been marketed as a thornless red climbing Hybrid Tea, it might have survived, and actually become rather popular, rather than a fussy Tea rose of dubious garden worthiness...
...I mean what more could you want...? damask fragrance.. thornless, my plant is 6 x 10 foot wide and without a single prickle anywhere... vigorous, continuous bloom and RED.. at least from a distance.. close up it's deep pink... and to top it all, minimal disease issues with Tea like foliage....
...one of the best climbing roses available to us, and yet it's not available unless one goes on a tour of the E.U...
edited to update that I found two very tiny prickles on my rose today, so small they are insignificant and a few even smaller ones on the back of some leaf stalks.... as good as ''virtually thornless'..
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First bloom of the season opened today on this rose, which now in its 4th year, own root, is about 5.5 tall by 8 foot wide.. very floppy, I can't imagine growing it without support, I just do not have enough basals for that..
..as everyone else says, wonderful damask fragrance, and pretty good on health too, very little disease, just bits here and there..
...I first grew it back in 1990 as 'Mons. Tillier'... grafted, it was much more vigorous in the first year then as a result.. which shocked me at the time, as I had understood it to be a tender Tea rose of small proportions... it shot up to 8 foot after just a few months.. and I had no idea what to do with it or how it happened.. I wish it was still available grafted onto rootstock here..
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