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'Star of the Republic' rose Reviews & Comments
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I am very confused about the parentage of this one.
In the comment just below, AndrewBarocco cites the breeder's notes, which state wichuraiana is the pollen parent, not abyssinica. Is there a conflicting source, or another reason why the parentage has not been updated?
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I have been wondering the same.
Anybody know whence the original claim of parentage arose?
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#2 of 10 posted
15 AUG by
 jedmar
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Citing of unpublished notes isn't sufficient for modifying the parentage. We would need at least some photos of the relevant notes.
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I agree with you, of course, it would be better if Andrew Barocco could share this if he has access to it..
By that standard, I have the same question as Philip ATX above: what is the source for the parentage being Abyssinica? Is it in the registration?
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Can you please clarify as to what source could be cited providing the claim to Abyssinica in the parentage? It seems highly improbable IMHO.
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#5 of 10 posted
28 SEP by
Lee H.
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My MR12 shows GT x R. Wichuriana.
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#6 of 10 posted
29 SEP by
jedmar
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Parentage was certainly from the registration. This listing was added in April 2006. We have now revised the pollen parent to Rosa wichurana as per MR12
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Thank you for that.
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#8 of 10 posted
1 OCT by
Lee H.
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I guess this is as good a time as any to bring this up, but does anybody know if there is a preferred or proper spelling for Wichuxxxxx? I see HMF uses Wichurana and Wichuraiana, while the ARS apparently cleaves to Wichuriana.
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#9 of 10 posted
1 OCT by
jedmar
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The name of the class is based on the German botanist Max Ernst Wichura. (Wichura = Storm, Gale in Polish). It was originally spelled Wichuraiana by Crépin in 1887. This was corrected to the correct Latin form Wichurana around the 1920s. Wichuriana is any case incorrect.
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#10 of 10 posted
2 OCT by
Lee H.
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I have Mike's original notes and the correct parentage for Star of the Republic is:
Graham Thomas x Seedling of R. wichuriana thornless
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Thanks, Andrew. I had been questioning this one. A first generation repeat bloomer from the Abyssinian rose species seems improbable, and I am only aware of one accession of this species domestically. (It hardly resembles the roses in the wilds of Somalia, but that could be attributed to a more amenable climate in CA.) I have been on a quest for sources.
Do you guys actually have a R. abyssinica in your program?
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#2 of 2 posted
16 JAN 22 by
jedmar
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According to various references, Rosa abyssinica bloooms twice. We have added an extract from a detailed article by Ivan Louette (2002) on this subject. The full article can be found with the link mentioned in the Notes.
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How is the repeat for those who've grown this for a while?
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Just planted my Star of the Republic about 6 weeks ago. First blossom opened today. Had to report on how heavenly the scent is. Wasn't really expecting anything this special. Very strong, rich, sweet myrrh scent with a fruity damask undertone. Fantastic! The bloom itself is also beautiful, apricoty-pink with yellow highlights. Love the bushy shape. So glad I finally decided to give this rose a try.
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