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Discussion id : 130-020
most recent 11 DEC 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 10 DEC 21 by Patricia Routley
Does anybody know where I can read the 2005 reference?
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 10 DEC 21 by jedmar
Yes, published in www.rosegathering/abelchat
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 10 DEC 21 by Patricia Routley
Ah, thank you Jedmar. I note the article talks of “blended colours”. I have often wondered what was “Chatenay pink” - the pale pink inner petals or the darker pink reverse.

And thank you too for your illustration of ‘Mme. Abel Chatenay’. The prickles are quite distinctive, and the long bud is interesting. I am not sure if the seemingly shorter buds of Billy’s photos (5 March 2009) relate to the 1985 reference which mentions two versions.
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 10 DEC 21 by jedmar
Merriam-Webster defines "Chatenay pink": a light to moderate yellowish pink that is stronger and much redder than seashell pink. I have also added a photo of the page with the colour shown in René Oberthür's book
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Reply #6 of 5 posted 10 DEC 21 by Patricia Routley
Thank you. Appreciated.
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Reply #7 of 5 posted 11 DEC 21 by jedmar
Found five more colour descriptions by Oberthür of the reverse of the centre petals, of highlights on the interior petals, as well as reverse of the petals and outside petals.
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 10 DEC 21 by jedmar
Merriam-Webster defines "Chatenay pink": a light to moderate yellowish pink that is stronger and much redder than seashell pink
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 10 DEC 21 by jedmar
Yes, published in www.rosegathering/abelchat
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Discussion id : 130-027
most recent 10 DEC 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 10 DEC 21 by Patricia Routley
Solitary - or in clusters?
From the refs:
1910.  rather apt when closely pruned to push up single strong flower shoots in panicles,
1912. in the second growth, bearing a loose panicle of flowers
1936 solitary
1947. borne singly on long stems
1978. because the growers of cut flowers took ‘Mme. Abel Chatenay’ into their hearts
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 10 DEC 21 by jedmar
Solitary and in small clusters, according to the old drawings and photos
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