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'Madame Ernest Calvat' rose Reviews & Comments
most recent 7 JUL 17  
Initial post 5 JUL 17 by AquaEyes
Just a bit of a silly question -- this rose is classed here as a "Bourbon, Climbing" but its sport-parent is classed here as a "Bourbon". I admit that both are long-caned Bourbons which have climbing habits, but if many references claim the sport is slightly less vigorous than the parent, shouldn't that indicate that both should at least be in the same class?

:-)

~Christopher
Reply #1 posted 5 JUL 17 by scvirginia
Yes, they should. Fixed.
Virginia
Reply #2 posted 6 JUL 17 by jedmar
Climbing sports are quite usual among Roses. They are not less vigorous, possibly less floriferous. Look for example at 'Souvenir de la Malmaison, Cl.' It is a monster!
Reply #3 posted 6 JUL 17 by AquaEyes
From what I've always read, 'Mme Ernest Calvat' differs from 'Mme Isaac Pereire' in bloom color and being slightly less vigorous. Never have I seen it described as a "climbing sport".

:-)

~Christopher
Reply #4 posted 6 JUL 17 by Patricia Routley
Both roses are classed Bourbon by the ARS
Reply #5 posted 7 JUL 17 by jedmar
Please check the references.
Reply #6 posted 7 JUL 17 by AquaEyes
For what are we checking?

:-)

~Christopher
Reply #7 posted 7 JUL 17 by Patricia Routley
Mme Ernst Calvat
1889 Mme. Isaac Pereire - rampant
1936 climbing
1992 6 feet

Mme. Isaac Pereire
1881 & 1914 very vigorous
1913 pillar
1936 climbing 2.5m
1992 & 1993 7' (2m)

In the 'Mme Isaac Pereire' file, member Carlene in Texas has reported 15-20 foot canes. Looking at the photos, there is a fairly big bush from member Mirek in Czech Republic; member Rescht-Laurent in France displays a trained climber; Sylvieyou, France has it over a pergola; and Ananto, Netherlands refers to it as "an ideal climber".
most recent 14 MAR 11  
Initial post 14 MAR 11 by Jimmy
Which scent is the strongest? Madame Ernest Calvat vs. Louise Odier. Please reply. Thanks.
most recent 18 MAY 07  
Initial post 18 MAY 07 by Wendy C
I've had Mdme Ernest for nine years and have enjoyed her very much. She's extremely winter hardy. It takes -20 temps to damage the canes. Mdme Ernest needs lots of room as she gets very large, even in zone 5. Her only fault would be a bit of powdery mildew in August, nothing horrible though. And she doesn't like being pruned in the least. If you want a fuss free rose this is one to look at. Dead head, clip off dry ends and go.
most recent 6 JUN 06  
Initial post 6 JUN 06 by Anonymous-103220
I grew this rose in Texas, with the long canes wrapped around a tripod of bamboo canes. Drawing out the long canes in a horizontal fashion allowed bud unions to sprout along the entire length - similar to pegging. During one spring flush, the bush put off over five hundred blooms. Wonderful and powerful scent - great flower form with some proliferations in the early blooms. Some tendency to black spot, so an open/airy location is recommended.