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'Laguna ®' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 145-080
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Initial post 23 MAY by Kim W Florida 10b Humid
Available from - High Country Roses
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Discussion id : 100-268
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Initial post 29 MAY 17 by Nastarana
Introduced in 1994. USA patent in 2006. (sigh)

There is probably nothing we can do about it, but I do deplore the way European breeders manipulate our (American) patent laws.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 29 MAY 17 by Patricia Routley
I cannot see any manipulation, but a closer look at those dates might help you.
BRED by Tim Hermann Kordes (Germany, 1994).
Introduced in GERMANY by W. Kordes' Söhne (Retail) in 2004.
U.S. patent application March 2, 2005
U.S. Plant Patent granted August 1, 2006
Introduced in UNITED STATES by Wayside Gardens in 2008 as 'Laguna'.
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 29 MAY 17 by Nastarana
Thank you. That does make a little more sense.

There is now in the USA a European rose named 'Karl Ploberger', a very nice yellow shrub, which seems to be gaining popularity among gardeners. So far, it is not patented in the USA, according to the HMF entry. So soon as it becomes more popular in North America, it no doubt will be. So, instead of waiting the usual, and quite reasonable, 20 years to propagate a favorite rose, one sometimes has to wait 25 or 30 years from the time of introduction into the North American market
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 30 SEP 21 by petsarebest
USA uses a 'first to file' rule whilst other nations use the 'first to invent'.
So when I see those delays I view it as the hybridizer waiting several years to prove the plant is robust [enough] for commercial sale before filing. The 'first to invent' rule of other nations encourages due diligence, science, and good record-keeping. In contrast, you can get a patent on/for just about anything in the States.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 1 OCT 21 by Nastarana
Granted and it is durned annoying, this practice of let's see how this one does in NA, and just when American gardeners begin asking their favorite small companies could they please carry the new cultivar, down like a portcullis comes the patent, not to mention restrictive contracts.
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Discussion id : 126-348
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Initial post 11 MAR 21 by ParisRoseLady
Available from - Stargazer Perennials
www.stargazerperennials.com
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Discussion id : 122-729
most recent 24 JUL 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 JUL 20 by Jukka K
Is Laguna completely infertile, or why doesn’t it have any listed descendants? No hips in any of the pics, either. Quite puzzling.
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