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'Pope John Paul II ™' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 118-069
most recent 25 OCT SHOW ALL
Initial post 19 AUG 19 by styrax
How is blackspot resistance for this rose on the East Coast of the US?
Reply #1 of 1 posted 25 OCT by Elestrial's Garden
It's excellent - I don't spray and it doesn't have any black spot. 6b Pennsylvania here
Discussion id : 95-562
most recent 5 JUN 19 SHOW ALL
Initial post 25 OCT 16 by Alexday
What a Rock Star of a rose! It blooms and blooms and the flowers are long lasting, huge and sparkly with a beautiful swirly form. This rose has a strong lemony soap scent, not my favorite but even if it weren't fragrant I would still grow this rose. It is always low growing, VERY low thorns, bushy, and 99% disease free year to year. The only drawbacks to this rose is that the stems aren't always strong enough to hold the gigantic blooms but most of the time they are!
Reply #1 of 4 posted 8 JAN 17 by Badger Rose
It is true that during certain times of the year (midsummer) the scent skirts the line between citrus and Windex window spray. I had seen someone else post this same comment somewhere but I cannot find their comment any more to tell them that they were not crazy. The smell is very good in spring and fall, however, and it's a beautiful, crazy bloomer all growing season.
Reply #2 of 4 posted 7 APR 17 by Michael Garhart
Windex. LOL. You just made my night :]
Reply #3 of 4 posted 10 JUN 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Fantastic reviews. I appreciate the excellent info. you gave on scent. Your honesty is admirable.
Reply #4 of 4 posted 5 JUN 19 by DLEverette_NC_Zone7b
I was just thinking the same thing about this rose's scent. It reminds me of soap when I smell it. Good to know I'm not the only one, haha.
Discussion id : 115-086
most recent 25 JAN 19 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 25 JAN 19 by davyjns
A "cadillac" of roses for sure but you have to really 'baby" it to get it to grow well. A pot with prepared special soil is best.
Discussion id : 113-507
most recent 12 OCT 18 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 12 OCT 18 by Geoffrey
For some reason I have Wagner as the introducer in 2010, but I have also had a thought that it might have been Swanes?
Reply #1 of 6 posted 12 OCT 18 by Patricia Routley
Geoffrey, you might find it helpful to skim through the references.
Reply #2 of 6 posted 12 OCT 18 by Geoffrey
Thanks Patricia, you have mentioned 'references' before, but I confess to not knowing how to access them. Hard for a fella to do this, but, teeth gritted, I am forced to so :D

So how do I check them out?
Reply #3 of 6 posted 12 OCT 18 by Patricia Routley
So easy Geoffrey.

Open the rose's file. Up the top you will see:
Photos Lineage Awards References Member Ratings....etc.
Click on References - and there they are - in chronological order with the earliest (first) refs at the bottom, and the latest at the top.
Reply #4 of 6 posted 12 OCT 18 by Geoffrey
GREAT, many thanks for showing me the obvious! If you want to hide something from me, put it right in front!.

But this begs the question, why doesn't the main page show Swanes as the introducer? What have I missed?
Reply #5 of 6 posted 12 OCT 18 by Patricia Routley
I believe Swane's are part of a group of nurseries calling themselves collectively, Rose Introducers of Australia.
Often a nursery in NSW will introduce a rose there, and in the same year, the Victorian member will introduce it there and the Western Australia member ....etc. It is often impossible to work out just who was the first. And when they change the rose name to something they think will sell better in Australia......well, that's when the fun starts.
Reply #6 of 6 posted 12 OCT 18 by Geoffrey
Nothing like a clear answer that is like mud! However, this answers a lot of unanswerable questions as to plats' heritage.

I do thank you for your patience and your sage advice.

No doubt, I will be back for more :).
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