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"Nacogdoches Rose" Reviews & Comments
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25 FEB by
 Michael Garhart
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Currently looking at Pirate Gold, Hoosiers Gold, and Memories. It still bothers me we can't ID this rose lol.
I know its not Golden Fantasie, Golden Sprite, Excitement, or Louise Weiss, but I don't think Goldite is off the table because nothing is known about it.
G. Yellow seems to be between all 3 major classes, which means its HT, GR, or FL possible. I include HT because the gold is so strong that it has a crayoning effect in places, which is known to happen in descendants of smaller-flowered florist HTs, as well as roses like Midas Touch (clearly its not MT tho).
Edit: Patent for Goldite seems to have sharp, formal form.
Edit 2: HCC to RHS Colour Chart descriptions for Hoosier Honey blooms in patent do not overlap in similar chart groupings (I own a RHS CC).
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28 APR 24 by
sam w
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It's such a harsh yellow when it first opens that I found it hard to place in the garden.
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15 JUN 22 by
Michael Garhart
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I am considering it could be a descendent of 'Buccaneer' but not 'Buccaneer' itself. I wish there were more photos of 'Amarillo' to go through, as they have the same inner petals and roughly the same coloration.
'Amarillo' is a City in Texas. The name made famous by several songs. It wouldn't be a stretch to find random 'Amarillo' roses around Texas due to the namesake, and Grandma's Yellow was found in Texas. That is not proof, but something to consider.
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#1 of 2 posted
13 MAR 24 by
goncmg
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Dang it does look a lot like those 2 pics of Amarillo. What about the 1980 Houston? The dull, narrowish leaf should give us an immediate name but nobody seems certain on this one and that fascinates me.
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#2 of 2 posted
16 MAR 24 by
Michael Garhart
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It'd be funny if Canary Diamond was just a rename of Houston. Maybe its a sister seedling. Obviously, at least half siblings.
Houston/Canary Diamond have a bit different foliage than G. Yellow and Amarillo.
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22 APR 18 by
Michael Garhart
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I wish there photos of all of the Golden Fantasie descendents.
The thing that strikes me about this rose, is that its not pure yellow in the photos. It has a honey gold tone, and it bleaches in random spots, but not altogether. That's a common trait in some Golden Wave descendents. Many of the seedlings from Selfridges x Freedom that I raised, for example, did this commonly. Especially if immature.
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#1 of 2 posted
22 APR 18 by
Patricia Routley
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There are patents for all of them, (except 'Louise Weisse' and 'Summer Melody') for those who would like to search more thoroughly.
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#2 of 2 posted
30 MAY 22 by
Michael Garhart
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I went through all the black and white images in those patents that I could, and none of them resonated.
It is a strange rose. Seemingly healthy, dark colored, has heterogenous petals. I went through the Boerner yellows too, and one almost matched, but not quite.
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