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'Amber Cloud ™' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 94-775
most recent 7 SEP 16 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 5 SEP 16 by Rupert, Kim L.
Thinking out loud this is a hybrid between Reve d'Or and Gigantea, it seems it would be a triploid, inheriting probably fourteen chromosomes (including the repeat flowering gene) from Reve d'Or and seven from Gigantea. That may make it useful and interesting for breeders to work with. I would be quite interested to see a self seedling of it to observe what might be possible from what's behind it.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 5 SEP 16 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Kim, Reve d'or descends from a Tea, so it's likely diploid like gigantea. I'd guess 'Amber Cloud' is diploid as well.

See descendants. That's why I used it with 'Leonie Lamesch'.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 7 SEP 16 by Rupert, Kim L.
Understood, Robert, but would you expect a first generation Gigantea hybrid to repeat as this one does? It seems there is more to the story than straight diploid cross.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 7 SEP 16 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Kim, 'Amber Cloud' never repeated for me in my climate.

I'm guessing it might offer some scattered later bloom in a coastal climate not unlike gigantea, but I wouldn't call it perpetual flowering.

That said, it wouldn't be the first repeat flowering hybrid derived from a diploid species if it did. I've raised a few myself. It seems meiosis isn't always as even as one might assume.
Discussion id : 40-268
most recent 22 JAN 11 SHOW ALL
Initial post 5 NOV 09 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
"Amber Cloud', is a Hybrid Gigantea, not Hybrid Gallica.

Classification in error as brought to my attention by Girija Viraraghavan.

Thanks, Robert
Reply #1 of 6 posted 5 NOV 09 by HMF Admin
Reply #2 of 6 posted 13 JAN 11 by Maurizio Usai
There's another error - "Deep yellow Hybrid Gallica"
Reply #3 of 6 posted 14 JAN 11 by Lyn G
Corrected ... thank you.

Reply #4 of 6 posted 15 JAN 11 by Girija and Viru
Thanks to all of you
Reply #5 of 6 posted 18 JAN 11 by Maurizio Usai
Dear Girija, I've just received a plant of this Rose from Marco, as well as some other of Viru's Clinophylla hybrids ('Gange's Mist' and 'Silver Dawn'). We'll see how they do perform in my garden!
Reply #6 of 6 posted 22 JAN 11 by Girija and Viru
We'd be most interested to hear how they perform. Thanks
Discussion id : 17-220
most recent 14 OCT 09 SHOW ALL
Initial post 11 MAR 07 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
This cultivar bloomed for the first time in my garden March 10, 2007. It's truly an imposing rose. The blossoms are quite large and hold up much better than one would expect for their size.

I'm certain it is going to be very popular once it becomes better known. The plant is very vigorous and the foliage beautiful.

Those in mild climates with enough space to feature a luxurious climber in a novel new color should consider 'Amber Cloud'. It's an instant classic on a par with 'Mermaid' but with richer tones.

Fragrance is mild tea.
Reply #1 of 2 posted 13 OCT 09 by anonymous-332978
How has the rose performed and bloomed since Mar 2007?
I am very interested in growing this gigantea hybrid. the only source, Rogue Valley, will not have it ready until next year.
I am located in Central Texas and with this parentage the rose should grow well on our alkaline soils.
Reply #2 of 2 posted 14 OCT 09 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Yes, 'Amber Cloud' had a lovely Spring bloom 2008 as well.

I originally gave this one to Roses Unlimited for propagation at the request of the Viraraghavans. Check with Roses Unlimited. They've should have had time to get it into production by now.

I also shared it with Paul Barden who must have passed it along to Rogue Valley.

After Spring of 2008 I removed my specimen of 'Amber Cloud'. I was able to utilize it for hybridization and now have offspring.

Btw, 'Amber Cloud' did not repeat for me in my climate. Reports of repeat flowering come from those who have grown it in cooler areas.

I wish I had room to keep everything but hybrid giganteas get large and I am limited on space. It was my goal to get 'Amber Cloud' distributed for propagation. I accomplished that goal.

You're right it should be good own-root in central TX.

Best wishes, Robert
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