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'Chelsea Brittlyn' rose Reviews & Comments
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12 SEP 23 by
theladybren
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Available from - Contact Joe and Brenda Smith for retail locations
gather-ye-rosebuds.com
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11 OCT 15 by
 Dianne's Southwest Idaho Rose Garden
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I have a miniature rose with this name. The tag says "SAVapatty". Description: Height 16-24", Hardy to zones 4b-11. It looks a lot like the Smith rose of that name from 2004 that you have listed, but I don't know for certain that it's the same. Perhaps you could investigate further and consolidate, if warranted? I've had this rose for 3-4 years.
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#1 of 4 posted
11 OCT 15 by
Patricia Routley
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The comment under Breeder, Saville, F. Harmon may help you. See here:
http://helpmefind.com/Roses/l.php?l=99.100473&tab=32&qn=23&qc=0
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#2 of 4 posted
12 OCT 15 by
Dianne's Southwest Idaho Rose Garden
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Thanks. Then it sounds like SAVapatty is actually Peppermint Patty which now should be known as Chelsea Brittlyn. Thanks.
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#3 of 4 posted
12 OCT 15 by
Dianne's Southwest Idaho Rose Garden
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Chelsea Brittlyn then, is the proper name for SAVapatty, which was once marketed as Peppermint Patty. Thanks, Patricia.
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#4 of 4 posted
12 OCT 15 by
Patricia Routley
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A pleasure Dianne. I just can't bring myself to add the SAVapatty name. It is a bit like someone nicking the KORdes or HARkness code name.
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#5 of 4 posted
12 OCT 15 by
Dianne's Southwest Idaho Rose Garden
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I guess something here is a bit over my head. If you can't explain here, can you send a pm?
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27 AUG 13 by
theladybren
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'Chelsea Brittlyn' is no longer named 'Peppermint Patty' due to a legal dispute. It is also not available at Greenheart Farms or Nor'East for the same reason. Contact Joe or Brenda Smith for inquiries for availability of this rose. You can reach us at ccrsweb@live.com or through the California Coastal Rose Society. Thank you
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30 MAR 10 by
Gwen Moore
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I have just received the information from Jeanie Haupt of NOr'East/Greenheart Farms that the miniature rose Chelsea Brittlyn is now being sold as Peppermint Patty. I don't know how these changes work, but can you note this under Peppermint Patty? To 20".
Thanks,
Gwen
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#1 of 9 posted
31 MAR 10 by
Cass
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There is already a miniature rose registered under the name of Peppermint Candy. I wonder why Nor'east would want to rename a registered rose and to give it the name of another registered rose.
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#2 of 9 posted
31 MAR 10 by
Kathy Strong
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Nor'East is doing it for marketing purposes. And the new name that Chelsea Brittlyn is being marketed under by Nor'East to all of its wholesale customers is "Peppermint Patty" not Peppermint Candy.
So, Peppermint Patty, should be included as a synonym for Chelsea Brittlyn in the names section, but the ARS registered name and the Exhibition Name should remain Chelsea Brittlyn.
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#3 of 9 posted
31 MAR 10 by
HMF Admin
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I believe Cass intended to refer to 'Peppermint Patty' as that name is already in use too.
This is sure to create unnecessary confusion and it would be helpful to know the full story as to why they have opted to use this name as it conflicts with a (somewhat) similar rose introduced by them.
It is likely there is more to this story and we invite additional feedback before making any changes.
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#5 of 9 posted
31 MAR 10 by
Kathy Strong
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I don't think there's anything else to the story. The person who discovered the sport of Aristocrat and who named it Chelsea Brittlyn (after her daughter as a 16th birthday present to her) is a friend of mine. That's what Nor'East told her -- she was disappointed by their decision, but wanted them to continue to market it, which they would agree to do only under the Peppermint Patty name. So now that rose (Chelsea Brittlyn) will be found in big box stores and the like (Nor'East's wholesale customers) under the other name (Peppermint Patty).
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#6 of 9 posted
31 MAR 10 by
HMF Admin
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Pardon my confusion regarding their having already used this name. We've updated this listing but do you have a reference we can add ?
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#7 of 9 posted
31 MAR 10 by
Kathy Strong
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There's nothing in print of which I am aware.
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#8 of 9 posted
1 APR 10 by
Gwen Moore
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I think the name Peppermint Patty was used for a red blend/striped rose introduced by a Michigan man named Gruenbauer in 1990. I tried to look him up and found an obituary. Perhaps the chapter of the American Rose Society of which he was a member would have information on whether this rose is still in cultivation.
As for why Nor'east can use the same name, ???? Maybe the first one was not patented or trademarked?
Gwen Kelaidis
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#4 of 9 posted
31 MAR 10 by
HMF Admin
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I believe Cass intended to refer to 'Peppermint Patty' as that name is already in use too.
This is sure to create unnecessary confusion and it would be helpful to know the full story as to why they have opted to use this name as it conflicts with a (somewhat) similar rose introduced by them.
It is likely there is more to this story and we invite additional feedback before making any changes.
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#10 of 9 posted
27 AUG 13 by
theladybren
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No longer named 'Peppermint Patty' due to legal dispute.
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#9 of 9 posted
27 AUG 13 by
theladybren
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No longer named 'Peppermint Patty' due to legal dispute.
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