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'Munstead Wood' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 119-815
most recent 19 MAR SHOW ALL
Initial post 15 JAN 20 by HeathRose
This rose keeps putting out many blooms despite not being very happy in my acidic soil (leaves show signs of deficiency) - though he appears to be healthier with every application of lime. Unfortunately instead of the rich dark red/burgundy colour I was expecting, the flowers are a very bright pink to magenta (though pretty it means I will probably move it to another border where it doesn’t clash with the peach and burgundy colours I put it near) But the biggest disappointment is that the flowers have no scent for me. This rose is praised so highly I am very happy to put all of these flaws down to the soil acidity, and our exceptionally hot summer (I’m in the Blue Mountains NSW and we have had a record breaking heat wave and drought not to mention the bushfires). Other people have commented on the colour being effected by heat so maybe the autumn bloom will be darker? Despite these conditions other roses in the same bed are much healthier looking and fragrant (Lady of Shalott and Jude the Obscure) so perhaps Munstead Wood is just a little fussier and may not be the best rose for very hot summers. I’m new to this so, any tips would be appreciated.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 28 JAN 20 by Magnus95
I don't think this is a rose for hot climates, in England the colour is a very rich, dark Burgandy and the fragrance is heavenly. Maybe consider moving it to a shadier location?
Reply #2 of 3 posted 1 MAY 20 by HeathRose
Thank you Magnus - I am going to do that this winter.
Reply #3 of 3 posted 19 MAR by delaney
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Discussion id : 83-636
most recent 3 FEB SHOW ALL
Initial post 11 MAR 15 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Susceptible to Powdery Mildew, my garden, Rancho Mirage, CA 92270
Reply #1 of 18 posted 12 MAR 15 by HMF Admin
Good to know, thank you Robert.

Would that we could get more people to share their experience with specific roses.
Reply #2 of 18 posted 12 MAR 15 by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Agreed. In this case I could have saved myself the time and expense of acquiring this variety. I have zero tolerance for Powdery Mildew. I'm surprised to find a variety this new to have problems, especially to this degree..
Reply #3 of 18 posted 8 SEP 15 by Michael Garhart
It seems common in this pedigree, stemming from its origin. They are even fuzzballs here in Oregon.

Falstaff was one of the exceptions, but it has the rebloom of tic tac...
Reply #4 of 18 posted 16 AUG 16 by ChrisBC
I love this rose, but I have it now in my second garden (first year), and in both places it has been susceptible to mildew. Other DAs in the same bed (Princess Alexandra of Kent, The Poet's Wife and Scepter'd Isle) are free of it. So it seems a true susceptibility of this particular rose.
Reply #5 of 18 posted 10 NOV 16 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
When it was a tiny 1st year own-root... it had mildew when I made the soil too acidic with gypsum. Then I replaced the soil with fresh top soil (alkaline black clay). No more mildew after soil replacement with higher pH and higher potassium clay.
Reply #6 of 18 posted 14 JAN 17 by Lavenderlace
This is super info to have on different varieties, thanks Straw!
Reply #7 of 18 posted 2 FEB by MiGreenThumb
This rose does NOT get powdery mildew in the Great Lakes (Michigan).
This rose does NOT get rust in the Great Lakes.
This rose DOES possess greater black spot resistance than the equivalent fragrant crimson hybrid tea.
The health of this rose is quite acceptable. Thank goodness CA is not the measure and dictator of all things rosey.
Reply #8 of 18 posted 2 FEB by delaney
No powdery mildew for me with it in Tasmania, Australia. (zone 8b ish) Nor black spot. The only problem I've had is keeping the wallabies from munching on it.
Reply #9 of 18 posted 2 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Powdery Mildew can be an issue when humidity is low combined with warm days and cool nights, as we experience here in Spring and Fall.

If your climate doesn't experience these conditions, you're less likely to have an issue.

Of course, all climates have their challenges.
Reply #10 of 18 posted 2 FEB by delaney
Hi, I wasn't disputing your experience at all, sorry if it came across like that. I was just adding mine on for those in my zone that may also read here. But I have no doubt what you are saying it true for your neck of the woods.
Reply #11 of 18 posted 3 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
Veilchenblau, no offense taken, and thank you for your kind reply.

I took the chance to explain to others why their experience might differ.

Yes, your climate there is quite different from what I've heard.

I was communicating for some time with Simon Voorwinde a number of years ago. He did some nice work with roses. I understand he's doing some beautiful work now with bearded Irises.

I miss Lilia Weatherly! She was a dear person and so generous with her time and wisdom.

Best wishes, Robert
Reply #12 of 18 posted 3 FEB by delaney
I think Simon V is in the North West of the state - very different from where I am. The North West is very green, high annual rainfall, fertile soil. I'm in the southern midlands. Hotter, drier, sandy soil and it seems to rain less every year now...
Lilia Weatherly lived not far from here, about half an hour away. I never met her unfortunately, she passed away before I moved here. I go to the same nursery she used to frequent and they all miss her very much as from all accounts she was a total sweet heart!
I have her Freycinet rose in amongst a row of Roseraie de l'hay. It does very well in our sandy soil and I like it very much. I also just like growing something in my garden created by a local person, who from all accounts was a good soul.
Reply #13 of 18 posted 3 FEB by Give me caffeine
I have thought of trying Freycinet. It sounds like a good one, and I don't have any rugosas yet. No sandy soil around here though. It would have to deal with a certain amount of clay.
Reply #16 of 18 posted 3 FEB by delaney
I think rugosas are pretty tough and will tolerate most soil types. At my last house, the soil was more clay. I did have a lot of rugosas, but not Freycinet, sorry. But the ones that did the best in the heavier soil there were Agnes (did amazingly), Mrs Anthony Waterer and Roseraie.
Reply #14 of 18 posted 3 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
It's wonderful that Lilia's work lives on.

I just looked it up and the last time I communicated with her was 2006. She really was a special person. I'm fortunate to have had the opportunity to make her acquaintance when I did. Tasmania certainly produces some keen rosarians!
Reply #15 of 18 posted 3 FEB by delaney
Have you tried "Tradescant"? out of curiosity. I'm thinking of trying it. It's an older Austin red that is said to be heat tolerant and more vigorous and not as prone to disease as The Squire (which I did have and I did have lots of problems with it. Pretty though)
Reply #17 of 18 posted 3 FEB by Robert Neil Rippetoe
'Tradescant' is gorgeous and fragrant, but in my climate it wants to get BIG. It grows here more like a climber, rather awkward and stiff. I'm sure if it were placed correctly it could be very pleasing.

The individual blossoms are stunning.I wish it repeated a bit more.

Munstead repeated better for me and was more restrained in habit.

In your cooler climate Tradescant might be a winner. Oh, and it didn't mildew for me! ;-)
Reply #18 of 18 posted 3 FEB by delaney
Thanks so much for that. It's good to hear from someone that has grown it. I will give Tradescant a go, but will plant it in a spot where it can "reach for the sky" if it wants. As Austins can get enormous here as well. Cheers.
Discussion id : 119-786
most recent 5 JUL SHOW ALL
Initial post 10 JAN 20 by jeffbee
I need help on this rose....
I got it in august in beijing with hot summer. it grows very light green and small leaves, and also does not flower at all....
the canes are very thin.but according to the pic others shared, the leaves should be dark green and big, and the remontance should be good.
I grow it with other 50 varieties together, only this one behaves weird...
Reply #1 of 3 posted 15 JUN by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
I have Munstead Wood for 6 years as own-root. My Munstead Wood has more blooms than the rose park's grafted-on-Dr.Huey, so it does better as own-root. It likes alkaline minerals. I almost killed it when I put too much acidic gypsum to break up my alkaline clay, and had to replace the soil with bagged alkaline clay before it pumped out 40+ blooms per flush. It needs high potassium fertilizer before the scent can be maximized. Potassium helps with thicker stems and more blooming. I use sulfate of potash with my alkaline tap water, but if I have too much acidic rain, I soak high-potassium-pea gravel into acidic rain water to supply potassium.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 4 JUL by jeffbee
Reply #3 of 3 posted 5 JUL by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Calcium & potassium are also in bio char, or half-burnt wood-ash. I burn tree branches, then throw water on top so instead of getting white ash, I get black charred wood. Munstead Wood likes bio char (pH 8) after week-long of acidic rain (pH 4.5) here.
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