Every year, I let my friend do a few crosses, and I germinate them for him. So this year I germinated a ton of Midnight Blue x Rose Gilardi. I have never used either, even though I have had Rose Gilardi since the 90s. Its very prickly. What amazed me was how few prickles there were among every seedling. It definitely does not pass on its prickles, or its mossing, readily. However, I have a few Shadow Dancer crosses, which is related to Rose Gilardi. The one I kept, which is [Dortmund x (Carefree Marvel x Shadow Dancer)] is interesting, beyond its amazing health. It has.... "non-prickles". Like it is rough to the touch, but they are not prickles. And the buds and stem ends give off cinnamon-scented resin. The same smell as 'Scarlet Moss'.