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Newsletter  (May 2015)  Page(s) 24.  
 
[From "Suckering Roses Revisited", by Darrell g.h. Schramm, pp. 23-27]
Moss roses, which are mutations of Centifolias, contain a few suckering roses in their family. ‘Communis’, the ‘Common Moss’ (pre-1700) will wander freely, while the Moss ‘Nuits de Young’ (1845) will explore in all directions but generally not farther than three feet from home.
Article (magazine)  (2001)  Page(s) 400.  
 
Fig. 1: ['Old Black' is closely related to 'Mignonne Charmante'. Next kin is 'Oeillet ' and 'Crested Provence'. Further related is 'Aristobule']
Book  (Apr 1999)  Page(s) 132.  
 
Nuits d'Young Moss. Laffay 1845. ('Old Black') Translation: "Young's Nights". The author cites information from different sources... purplish-red... The English poet Edward Young (1683-1765) and his poem "Night Thoughts" are commemorated by the Anglophile Laffay.
Book  (Dec 1998)  Page(s) 436.  Includes photo(s).
 
Nuits de Young Description... deep blackcurrant purple with grayish overtones, and the whole effect of each fully open flower is that of velvet. When fully open they reveal a small group of golden yellow stamens...
Book  (Mar 1998)  Page(s) 42, 43(photo).  Includes photo(s).
 
Rosa x centifolia muscosa 'Nuits de Young' ('Black Moss', 'Old Black') Description... deep, velvety, reddish-purple flowers set off by the golden stamens...
Book  (1997)  Page(s) 165.  Includes photo(s).
 
Nuits de Young ('Old Black') Moss. Laffay (France) 1845. Description and cultivation... flowers: very dark, velvety maroon-purple
Book  (Oct 1996)  Page(s) 55.  
 
Nuits de Young ('Old Black') Description... the darkest of Moss roses, with smallish, fragrant double flowers of deepest burgundy velvet lit by golden stamens... buds are darkly mossed...
Book  (1995)  Page(s) 49.  Includes photo(s).
Book  (1995)  Page(s) 142.  Includes photo(s).
Book  (Nov 1994)  Page(s) 66.  
 
Nuits de Young Moss. Laffay (France) 1845. Description... Presumably named after 'Night Thoughts' by the eighteenth-century English poet, Edward Young... One of the most famous Mosses... The small flowers are of intense murrey-purple, dark and velvety, lit by a few yellow stamens...
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