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"Odee Pink" rose Reviews & Comments
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I'm surprised to see this rose listed as a 'Tea'.. don't most people who know it think it's a China rose?
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Looking at the nurseries, Angel Gardens and Antique Rose Emporium both call it a tea. La Roseraie du Desert list a climber called 'Odee's Pink Noisette'.
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Thank you Patricia. I got mine from Roseraie in France, and it just surprises me that this rose can be thought of as either a Tea or Noisette. Not claiming to be an expert but it looks and behaves all China to my eyes. It's evergreen through my winter - Teas apart from Lady Hillingdon which seems to do as well here as anywhere, and Mme. Antoine Mari, are not the best for my climate, but Odee Pink sails through and blooms all summer.. just like China roses do for me.. It's also said to resemble the long lost China rose 'Irene Watts'...
I'm going to continue thinking of it as a China, as it just doesn't say 'Tea' to me... not yet.. and I don't see any sign of it becoming a climber in my conditions..
I see it was found in gardens in Texas, west of the Brazos river... I rather like that..
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Marlorena, perhaps you might like to query La Roseraie du Desert on their 'Odee's Pink Noisette' and whether it could be the same, or different from the one you purchased from them.
And take a look at the Australian foundling "Agnes Smith" to see if you see anything familiar in those photos.
I have a poor specimen of "Agnes Smith" and it has often struck me as having a good deal of china blood. Mine was so poor in fact, that in 2016 I thought I had better propagate it. The resulting three plants are doing very well (for my cool, acid soil conditions).
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21 APR 18 by
 HubertG
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Just looking at the photos of 'Odee Pink', it doesn't look the same as 'Agnes Smith' to me.
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Patricia... that's an interesting rose in itself. I'm not convinced it's the same as mine though. Agnes is very pink in photos, like my Pink Gruss an Aachen, but that may be due to climate. My Odee is almost white, or blush white at best..
My rose appears to be the same as shown on its page, I was just surprised it was found in Texas, as I had been under the impression it was found in France. Obviously got that wrong..
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....... My Odee is almost white, or blush white at best..
It makes me wonder why it was named "Odee PINK" when it was found.
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I've just looked at some of my photos and it does have a pink centre when it opens, but blush white outer petals.
I might upload a photo just to compare..
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I agree that this is a china. We only called it Odee's pink noisette as we received it with this name from the USA. it's not a climber. In my opinion this rose is probably the true 'Irene Watts' matching perfectly the description ' Journal des Roses' 1910
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Interesting John, thank you... I know you've said before about Irene Watts, so it's good to hear that confirmed again from such an authority as yourself.... it's a little treasure.
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I can see in the comments below how impressed I was with this little rose early on... unfortunately it succumbed to disease... Own root and in a pot it withered away to nothing and just died on me.. I tried hard to keep it going, repotted and fussed over it, so I'm a little amused now when I read the report by Antique Rose Emporium that it's ''very easy to grow'' and 'gardener friendly''... admittedly, from another country, so I shall hold my hands up and say it must have been my fault entirely..
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Tea roses are easy in warm climates. I suspect they might need warmth of soil, not just the ambient air.
In Norfolk, you might need a greenhouse and maybe a way to keep the pot warm.
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..yes, it was in the greenhouse.. possibly got too damp and humid in there... I do grow some Tea and China roses in the garden such as are available here, but I chose to keep this one potted.. Pity, it was a quaint little rose. I thought Hume's Blush Tea Scented China [Bermuda Spice] had similar blooms.. not quite the same.. and that did smell of Tea..
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I'm intrigued to see that Roseraie du desert calls this rose "Odee's Pink Noisette". I've been wondering if this could be be the supposedly long-lost Noisette 'America'?
My sense of smell isn't reliable, but I have noticed a fragrance. I'm not sure if I'd know an orris fragrance if it...erm... bit me in the nose, though.
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