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'KORol' rose Reviews & Comments
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9 MAY 23 by
ParisRoseLady
My Oldtimer Story: In spring of 2021, I was browsing the body bag roses at my local Home Depot, and spied an unfamiliar label: Oldtimer. Intrigued, I fired up Helpmefind on my phone and looked up the pics and comments. The plant was a poor specimen, and there was only one left. Still, I wanted to give Oldtimer a shot, and he was taken home and duly planted into a smallish 4 gallon pot (I've largely container rose gardened for the past several years, due to multiple moves). Long story short, Oldtimer lived, even though he struggled mightily to put out a single bloom at the end of one of two spindly canes. But what a magnificent bloom it was: bigger than ANY I have had on the 300+ varieties of roses I'd grown over the years. The form was exquisite: classic hybrid-tea on steroids, with a dash of organic fantasy, and then....the fade began, the same day, as I recall. Still, the denouement was a showstopper, a fading glory in 7 acts, or something like that. But one flower later, I was sold on that rose. I began to coddle the Oldtimer, make sure he didn't miss a feeding, groomed those stunted canes and sparse leaves. Then a blistering summer set in. Oldtimer tried several times to produce... but gave up time and again, the blooms would just stall, ball, and wither to a hardened lump. I thought fall would be better times for Oldtimer, but he was still reeling from his first summer in New Mexico (I guess he's NOT a local, LOL) and same story for the fall season's blooms: Mission Abort. Over the winter, Oldtimer began to shrivel and blacken. By spring 2022 when I began the seasonal inspection and cleanup, he looked to be a goner. I kept watching him, and ... NADA. Finally I placed his pot out near the trash bin, ready to be dumped, and got busy administering to my brood of 50 pots. Weeks later, I passed through the dumpster zone and a flash of apricot caught my eye. Oldtimer was alive! I hastened to scoop him up and spirit him to a water source, then put him into the regular maintenance routine. 3 beautiful blooms later (I've uploaded them into the photo gallery), Oldtimer was officially back! His second season (2022) was definitely more of a success, he produced a handful of the big beauties, even though his habit is the runtiest I've seen in all my years of rose growing. And THIS year promises yet more: he is proudly ensconced in a new whisky barrel pot, and budding out like a champ... well, ALMOST like a champ. I'll make sure to capture that first spring flush and share it here....
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#1 of 4 posted
10 MAY 23 by
Lee H.
Great story! I not-so-secretly love to save (or attempt to) those poor 1/2 price body bags left at the end of the season. Makes me feel like Charlie Brown at Christmas.
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#2 of 4 posted
10 MAY 23 by
Kathy Strong
Me three! It's called playing the rose lottery, and is usually both more fruitful and more fun, not to mention cheaper, than the real lottery . . . . But probably still a bad habit.
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#4 of 4 posted
10 MAY 23 by
ParisRoseLady
LOL Kathy, it's a bad habit only in that we end up with WAY more roses than we said we would ever have... but YES cheaper and more fun than playing the lottery, I'll take it over buying a paper ticket at the 7-11 any day!
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10 MAY 23 by
ParisRoseLady
Thank you Lee, LOL I think I have the Charlie Brown at Christmas syndrome as well, I've rescued a ton of bedraggled potted roses from the Lowe's clearance section over the years! In most instances, a deep watering, some fish emulsion, a hard prune, and getting them into the ground or a generous pot is all they need to come roaring back. As for body bag roses on clearance, I think that's more difficult because the roots are so chopped (to get them into the bags, LOL) that they tend to struggle quite a bit. Plus I've found that disturbing the feeder roots by allowing the tube of sawdust to fall off causes the plants to be wilted and traumatized. I now try to keep the sawdust root ball intact when planting them by keeping the paper wrapper on, then filling the planting hole with dirt almost to the top before carefully sliding the paper up and off, pressing the fill dirt in immediately so the sawdust tube doesn't crumble. The plants seem to do WAY better with this method. (I saw this on a Youtube video a while back). The thing about bagged roses is that sometimes you will see a variety that you absolutely won't otherwise locally, with the other option paying an arm and a leg online. So it's an opportunity to snag a cool rose at $10-12 (or less). Plus there's the challenge of making that type of rose thrive, I love it!
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17 JUN 22 by
a_carl76
I love this rose. It is an older variety and there is a long period of time between flushes, but it is such a nice color and the form is always spot on. What huge blooms - mine average about 6 inches (not the 4 inches listed) with no extra care. Not very many places carry it anymore which makes me a bit sad but I was lucky to find one bagged plant of it 3 years ago at a big box store - and it was correctly labeled for a change. Does need good winter protection here in Iowa but it does reward you for your efforts.
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10 OCT 18 by
Mariano R. Saviello
Dear all,
Could anyone explain me briefly why the famous 'Old Time' turns into 'Oldtimer' now? I belive it must have been a matter of registration or something related.
Thanks in advance!
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6 FEB 16 by
Beth's Northern CA Rose Garden
None of the suppliers listed carry this rose anymore. At least not in the USA.
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