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'Paul's Himalayan Musk Rambler' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 86-004
most recent 18 JUN 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 17 JUN 15 by wernersen
After several years of very healthy growth my two PHM plants showed quite havy mildew infestation last year and this year as well. Plants grow thrue it well, but do not look nice and flowers are impaired partly.
I the beginning I thought PHM was completly resistant, so I am bit disapointed now, but PHM is still a great cultivar and a wonder to look at as it covers gardenhuts and half houses in clouds of flowers.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 17 JUN 15 by Jay-Jay
My neighbour a few houses further in the street has this rose too.
In our garden the rose can get as high as it wants and is high up into the sky and healthy. But in the neighbours garden, space is limited to a rose-arch (the rest is pruned off)... and almost no air circulation => Lots of mildew and even black-spot as well.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 18 JUN 15 by wernersen
Yes microclimatic conditions do play a role certainly. One is partly unter a roof but starts growing over the roof in about 6m hight, the other grows over a small gardenhut. The one on the house is more affected.
The other part is probably inoculum, I am suspecting the susceptible American Pillar to produce enough mildew spores to infestate even the rather tolerant PHM.
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Discussion id : 70-933
most recent 17 APR 13 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 7 APR 13 by ullus.d
There are are no descendants listed for this plant.
Are there really no descendants of Pauls Himalayan Musk known?
It germinates very easily and just now I have about 50 young seedlings of this year (2013)
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 8 APR 13 by Patricia Routley
Is your rose pale pink, or white? I am wondering if you have R. brunonni, the seeds of which come up like grass
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 17 APR 13 by ullus.d
Hi Patricia, thanks for your reply.
There is not much colour in my plant. Flowers are white to faint pink, however they are very double and brunonii flowers are not double.
But your expression "the seeds of which come up like grass" characterizes this plant quite well.
;-)
Actually I overlooked the earlier posting from Wernersen from Berlin having seedlings of PHM as well.
Seedsetting and germination here in Germany seems to be not a rare event.

As mentioned in these posts it might be that PHMs offspring is simply not that interesting and not worth talking about.

So I am going to keep the seedlings but without special care. Survival of the fittest.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 17 APR 13 by Jay-Jay
I've heard before of a German, who sowed seeds of the Paul's Himalayan Musk Rambler and those germinated like weeds, but they were all lookalikes of the original rose (selflings?)
Maybe You need some more generations, to get something different after pollinating the successive generations Yourselves with the pollen of the plants of YOUR choice.
Good luck and enjoy the process!
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Discussion id : 26-066
most recent 4 APR 11 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 5 MAY 08 by wernersen
I am growing PHM on a south facing balcony pillar in Berlin Germany in rather poor sandy soil. In its 3rd year it is about 3,5 m and growing vigorously.
Not knowing that PHM does not set hips generally i used it last year as mother for crosspollination. Surprisingly the cross pollinated flowers set hips that contained singel to few viable seeds.
Currently I am growing 6 hybrid seeldings.
It seems to me PHM might be a good rose for the lazy breeder as it does not need emasculation since it does not produce selfed hips.

I have to make correction to this message:
This year my PHM made lots of hips presumably from selfings. I have no idea why it did not last year. This year I did not mark my crossings assuming that only the crossed flowers will set hips, so I lost my crossings in the big amount of selfed hips.


PhM seeds seem to grow easily with me. I got six seedlings last year that have grown to almost 1,5m in one year. this year i have harvested lots of hips and sown the cleaned seeds directly in sowing dishes in a cold glashouse. By mid december I got a few, by end of december quite a lot of healthy seedlings. They seem to like temps of 0-10°C. (see my journal)
I am surprised, since there are no known descendants of PhM.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 4 APR 11 by Jay-Jay
Hallo Werner, Wie vergeht es diese Sprosslinge jetzt?
Hello Werner, how are these seedlings behaving now?
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 4 APR 11 by wernersen
Hallo Jay-Jay,
it seemd those first 6 were not hybird finally. They flowered white to pale pink 2,5-4 cm diameter. Three of them grew to about 3m in two years and I removed them last year.
The seedlings mentioned in the last paragraph of the comment amounted to more than 300. My children were able to sell almost 200 of them at a local plant exchange at 20-50 cent a piece.
At the moment I have another ca. 50 seedlings in the second year and hope to get some flowering this spring. After flowering season all open pollinated PHM seelings that have not flowered or have flowers of no interest will be culled by me.

I have got so many more interesting seedlings (see journal e.g. PHM x Mozart) that I have to remove as many as possible to keep some space in my garden.
Should you have have interest in any plants let me know.
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 4 APR 11 by Jay-Jay
Thank You for Your reply Wernersen.
I hope the new seedlings bring what You had in mind.
The other ones You might use for/as a rootstock, for budding more interesting seedlings.
Maybe there is no known offspring of Paul's Himalayan Musk Rambler, because they're mostly lookalikes!
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Discussion id : 46-809
most recent 17 JUL 10 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 16 JUL 10 by Patricia Routley
HelpMeFind is giving a date of 1916 for the white 'Paul's Himalayan Musk Rambler'.
Brent Dickerson gives a date of 1899 for this rose, but he also lists a blush 'Paul's Tree Climber' with a date of 1916.
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Reply #1 of 2 posted 17 JUL 10 by jedmar
I also believe it is the 'Tree Climber', which was discovered in the 60s in England. I never saw a corroboration for 1899.
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Reply #2 of 2 posted 17 JUL 10 by Patricia Routley
Thanks Jedmar. I have a tiny plant coming on and the HelpMefind photos are helping me search for the best tree to put it under. I'll search the books later too for more 'Paul's Tree Climber' references. It sounds as though there is lots of interest, as well as beauty, in this rose.
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