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"Wood St. Buff Yellow" rose Reviews & Comments
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Margaret, have you considered 'Jean Pernet' as a possible identity?.
I was looking at the photos of your beautiful rose, thinking that it must be a close cross from Safrano possibly with a Dijon Tea or something very double, and when I looked up Safrano's offspring, Jean Pernet (Devoniensis x Safrano) stood out. It looks very much like 'The Garden' illustration, especially with the undulate leaf edges, and the other early drawings seem to give the stems a strong reddish cast. The Lockley photo is hard to draw a conclusion from but you would be able to compare one of your own flowers in that state of opening in profile.
Sangerhausen gives 8/10 for fragrance, so maybe that might not match.
Edit: I just notice the comment where Wood St Buff is relatively thornless, so maybe not Jean Pernet if it has thorns.
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One person suggested that it might be a sport or reversion of "Fake Perle". I don't like that because they're on a different timetable; but that's not reliable. Spray Cecile Brunner starts flowering quite a bit later than Mlle Cecile Brunner and White Cecile Brunner, at least in my garden.
I don't get involved much in research - my main contributions to heritage roses are documenting by photographs, and propagating for the collection at Renmark (when we were still planting there), and for backup gardens.
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#2 of 3 posted
29 MAR 18 by
 HubertG
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My feeling (without having grown either rose) is that there are too many differences for it to be a sport, especially when the odds are placed in favour of it being one of the many hundreds of other varieties from that time.
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18 NOV 18 by
HubertG
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Should 'Mme. Charles' perhaps be reconsidered as an identity for this rose? I noted the similarity to Safrano previously but back then I didn't realise 'Mme. Charles' was practically thornless like this rose. One reservation is the early Australian reference to 'Mme. Charles' growing to 9 feet. Apart from that "WSBY" could easily be called a "glorified Safrano".
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There was a suggestion at one stage that "Fake Perle" might be a sport parent of "Wood St Buff-yellow'. At Renmark they appear to be on a different timetable - " Wood St" having a flush of new growth when "Fake Perle" doesn't. Which isn't necessarily significant.
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Margaret - that was a superb photo of the foliage you have added. Back in 2007 I was wondering if this rose could be HT but came to no conclusion.
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Lots of red blobs in my garden at present; the parrots are having a lovely time sucking the sap from them.
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Responding to Salix in a photo comment.
I had hoped that those who concentrated on teas would have added more info to "Wood St. buff Yellow". At the moment there are almost no characteristics in the file, not even the basic colour. I'll start adding a bit so you have something to compare against your Snug Harbour tea.
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"Wood St., Buff Yellow" is a Western Australian foundling, originally from Balingup.
The lady who found it, Natalee Kuser said the original bush was about four and a half to five foot tall, open, sparse and not particularly robust.
It seems to be almost thornless but I have noted four to five tiny thorns under the midrib.
At one time I did notice the bush had three prickles - all on the older canes. I touched two and they almost fell off. [sounds like a song – there were three little prickles, hanging on the bush….] so it seems the prickles are not retained long term.
The pedicels are glandular.
Some blooms have been split-centered at Northcliffe.
It has an intense purple-red new growth and I have not seen this particular shade in any other tea rose. An old note of mine says ".... It was just COVERED with red leaves. Not red-brown leaves as my 'Mrs. Dudley Cross' is today, but purple-red leaves. It was the sight of the nursery."
I have noted on occasions the flowers are identical to that of 'Reve d'Or', but the habit of the bush is entirely different to 'Reve d'Or'.
I have also considered' 'Sunset' , 1883, which was a sport of 'Perle des Jardins', because of the intensity of the purple new leaf colouring of "Wood St. Buff Yellow". The leaves of 'Perle des Jardins' are a strong red-brown. However, the leaves are not the same shape and surface of my 'Perle des Jardins'.
I have considered 'Lady Plymouth' but this sounds too cream for "Wood St. Buff yellow";
'Mme. Falcot'; and have not yet investigated 'Mme. Constant Soupert' and 'Mme. Charles' , although I think both of those are said to have long buds - "Wood St. Buff Yellow" has short buds.
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