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'Radiance' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 106-399
most recent 10 NOV 17 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 8 NOV 17 by billy teabag
I have a rose that arrived with the name 'Radiance' that's definitely not 'Radiance'. Trying to discover its correct identity, I've noticed a change in the description of 'Radiance' over time.
The early descriptions tell us that the backs of the petals are darker than the petal faces and this can be confirmed in the earliest photographs.
However, by 1958, Modern Roses V has this reversed: ("rose-pink, reverse lighter"), and this description has carried forward to at least Modern Roses 10. I don't have a copy of the most recent Modern Roses and haven't been able to check whether this has been amended.
Wondering how widespread the confusion is and how many are growing or selling 'Radiance' impostors.
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Reply #1 of 11 posted 8 NOV 17 by Margaret Furness
The photos on hmf look like they have the darker pink outside (apart from one that I'm not sure is correct). The one in the HRIAI Collection is from an old plant of David Ruston's, budded by John N, who presumably also supplied the plant at Maddingley.
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Reply #2 of 11 posted 8 NOV 17 by Patricia Routley
It hasn't been amended. Still ("rose-pink, reverse lighter")
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Reply #4 of 11 posted 9 NOV 17 by billy teabag
Thanks Patricia
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Reply #3 of 11 posted 9 NOV 17 by billy teabag
Thanks Margaret.
Do you know the provenance of Red Radiance at the respository?

My rose is flattish-globular warm deep pink with lighter petal reverses and about double the usual Radiance petal number.
The budwood was said to be from Rustons some years ago - not the respository.
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Reply #5 of 11 posted 9 NOV 17 by Margaret Furness
Yep - Red Radiance came from 'Kombacy' via Thomas for Roses.
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Reply #6 of 11 posted 9 NOV 17 by billy teabag
Thanks Margaret. A long shot - Would you happen to know whether the Red Radiance budwood for the Stirling Square project would have come from the repository plant or another 'Red Radiance' from the Ruston collection?
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Reply #7 of 11 posted 9 NOV 17 by Margaret Furness
I have the Kombacy Red Radiance here - do you want photos of it?
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Reply #8 of 11 posted 9 NOV 17 by billy teabag
Always good to see more photos, but this will be the same as the one in the repository and that doesn't look like our ring in.
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Reply #9 of 11 posted 9 NOV 17 by Margaret Furness
I think on my plant the outside of the Red Radiance petals is minimally darker than the inside, but is quickly bleached by hot sunshine.
A while back I posted a photo of the unstable Careless Love in the channel row at Renmark, but I don't think it helps much.
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Reply #10 of 11 posted 9 NOV 17 by Margaret Furness
Pat tells me that David's plant list doesn't include Red Radiance (which must be why Thomases asked me for budwood from Kombacy when they lost their stock plant). Can't tell you where the budwood sent to WA came from.
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Reply #11 of 11 posted 10 NOV 17 by Ozoldroser
Weren't there a few Radiances at a property near Hay at that conference?
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Discussion id : 75-682
most recent 5 FEB 17 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 24 DEC 13 by CybeRose
American Rose Magazine 1(5-6): 5-6 (November-December 1933)
Novelties and Why
J. H. Nicolas
Roses are essentially local, but some people are expecting them to be all universal. They expect a rose originated in Timbuktu to be adaptable and good in the mountains of Podunk and the alkali of Death Valley! And because that rose rebels under strange condtions, they blame the hybridizer! Even Radiance, perhaps the most widely adaptable rose of all, is not universal; it is not even good everywhere in the United States, and it simply refuses to perform in Europe.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 5 FEB 17 by Michael Garhart
I lol'd at this one, hahaha.
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Discussion id : 94-547
most recent 23 AUG 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 23 AUG 16 by CybeRose
Gardening 15: 348 (Aug. 1, 1907)
HYBRIDIZING
John Cook

I have one now which has good points for commercial winter work. It is the second generation of my white seedling, Madonna, and Enchanter. It has a stronger growth than either of them, stiff stem and large pink flowers, a shade lighter than Enchanter.
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Discussion id : 79-974
most recent 17 AUG 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 17 AUG 14 by CybeRose
Gardeners' Chronicle of America, 19(5): 226 (May 1915)
GROWING ROSE SEEDLINGS.
John Cook, Maryland.
In 1908 I introduced Radiance, a rose pink with a silver lining to the petals. This is a seedling from Cardinal crossed with an unnamed pink seedling. This rose received a silver medal at the Hartford Test Gardens, and this, in my opinion, is the very best of all the Hybrid Tea Roses for out of doors. The demand for this rose is increasing every year.
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