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'Beauté de Lyon' rose Reviews & Comments
most recent 11 DEC 21  
Initial post 11 DEC 21 by Margaret Furness
If "Mrs Heggie's Red Tea" is Beaute Inconstante, the height needs revising. I removed mine from a confined space when it reached 3m high x 5m x 5m.
Reply #1 posted 11 DEC 21 by Patricia Routley
Revised. Mine has always stayed at the minimum height shown.
Reply #2 posted 11 DEC 21 by Margaret Furness
Thank you. It taught me not to plant Teas in confined spaces.
most recent 5 APR 16  
Initial post 4 APR 16 by Jen Light
The name should be corrected to " Mrs Heggie's Red Tea" - the study name originally given by myself as property owner in discussion with Pat Toolan. Mrs Marie Heggie was the original owner of the property ' Almerta' in South Australia from 1887. The homestead was built in 1901. " Mrs Heggie's Red Tea" was one of a number of roses bordering a vineyard in front of the house. Fortunes Double Yellow, Maman Cochet, Cecile Brunner and Fortuniana still exist alongside the mother plant of " Mrs Heggie's Red Tea".
Reply #1 posted 5 APR 16 by Patricia Routley
We can't delete the Almerta name altogether as there have been three published references to it in the past, but I have made it a hidden synonym and added the name of "Mrs. Heggie's Red Tea". It is good to read of the age of your property. Thank you Jen.
most recent 4 APR 16  
Initial post 4 APR 16 by Give me caffeine
Hmm. This one sounds really interesting. There aren't any nurseries listed for it in Australia. Does anyone know of a commercial source?

Also, how spikey is it?
Reply #1 posted 4 APR 16 by Margaret Furness
It's in commerce in Aus as Papillon (which it isn't - most likely Beaute Inconstante). Mine grew huge, about 5m wide x 3m high, at which stage I pulled it out to retrieve some paths. Aphids aren't interested in it. the colour varies a lot during the season, and blooms tucked within the bush can be very pale.
Reply #2 posted 4 APR 16 by Give me caffeine
Ok thanks. Looks like Mistydowns is the only place that has it.
Reply #3 posted 4 APR 16 by Give me caffeine
Mistydowns is a bit of a worry. Not only is their website incredibly slow to load, but the page for Tea roses states that they were originally produced by crossing China roses with Rosa gigantea!

Beats me where they got that daft idea. It sounds like they have somehow got Teas mixed up with Clark's roses, or something.
most recent 4 JAN 14  
Initial post 4 JAN 14 by Margaret Furness
My seven-year-old plant, essentially unpruned, is about 5m x 5m wide and 3m tall, well-clothed to ground level.
It appears unpalatable to the sort of aphids we get in South Australia.
At times some of the petals turn an ugly black within the flower. Not sure why. Otherwise it is healthy.
The flower colour is very variable with the season and with sun exposure.
In Australia it is sold incorrectly as 'Papillon'; see comment in Description re 'Beaute Inconstante'.
Reply #1 posted 4 JAN 14 by HMF Admin
Thank you Margaret - it would be great if more people would share their experience like this.