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'Beauty of Rosemawr' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 75-222
most recent 16 JAN 16 SHOW ALL
Initial post 21 NOV 13
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Reply #1 of 11 posted 2 JAN 16 by Patricia Routley
What is the provenance of your rose please hmfusr?
Do you think your rose could be the same as "Camnethan Cherry Red"?
Reply #2 of 11 posted 4 JAN 16 by hmfusr
I'm looking into it. I want to check the following on my rose that pertain to Camnethan Cherry Red: "PEDICEL: glandular and prickly.
SEPALS: Glandular
RECEPTACLE: Small, slender cup, a few glands, more at base
HIP: Small, globular, orange, ageing to brown
FOLIAGE: New: bronze-red. Old: dark green.
PRICKLES: Moderate to sparse"

My 'Beauty of Rosmawr' shows a lot of variation in the appearance of blooms. One variant looks a lot like blooms in other users' gardens. Others look less similar. Looking at images of Camnethan Cherry Red' I can see one strong point of difference: on my rose you never see yellow stamens. The innermost petals invariably curve inward and shield the stamens from view. The bloom disintegrates without ever opening out so far as 'Camnethan Cherry Red'. This is notable because that was once a prerequisite for residency in my garden (immunity is granted to Dainty Bess because its stamens are red, and i'm not sure how Sadler's Wells, Rugspin and Scabrosa get away with it, though they do :)).
I'll report back when I have more info to offer.
Reply #3 of 11 posted 4 JAN 16 by hmfusr
I think my 'Beauty of Rosmawr' IS the one that Mistydowns are selling as 'Cammnethan House Red' (sic), if one photo can confirm it. My rose looks like the Professeur Ganaviat images posted by Jedmar, and not so much like those posted by Marcir, Gartenjockels kleine gaerten or Rita Rose.
It also looks to me quite dissimilar from Princess de Sagan.
I do not think it looks much like any of the images of Camnethan Cherry red that have been posted with the possible exception of Eric Timewell's. Looking at Margaret Furness's whole plant, the blooms are upright. Mine often tend to nod. My rose's blooms are limp, petals fewer; the whole effect a lot less 'full' than those in images here of Camnethan Cherry Red, and mine's blooms are not so red. They are more magenta to light crimson. Still, my plant is as Billy T has described Camnethan Cherry Red: 'sparse and airy', though the fact that it's not very well-lit could also have something to do with that.
I am still yet to check pedicels, sepals, prickals etc. The plant is 2 or 3 years old and is 2 m tall.
If only the plot were whipping cream. Then its thickness would at least make for a decent pav.
Reply #4 of 11 posted 4 JAN 16 by Patricia Routley
Thanks to Billy's superb photos, you need to now move your photos out of 'Beauty of Rosemawr' and into "Camnethan Cherry Red". They are misleading where they are now and you will be able to watch closely to see if in fact, the rose you bought from Mistydowns is "Camnethan Cherry Red". If only the nurseries would follow the example set by Vintage Gardens wherein they listed the provenance, we would all be a lot wiser.
Reply #5 of 11 posted 5 JAN 16 by hmfusr
doke okie
Reply #6 of 11 posted 5 JAN 16 by hmfusr
I loved the name :(
Reply #7 of 11 posted 5 JAN 16 by Patricia Routley
True Rose love never runs smooth.
Reply #8 of 11 posted 5 JAN 16 by hmfusr
Reply #9 of 11 posted 15 JAN 16 by hmfusr
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Reply #11 of 11 posted 16 JAN 16 by Patricia Routley
Delete? Deleted?
hmfusr - in this atrocious summer, I am desperate for some fine wit to boost my flagging spirits.
I want that comment back again. From memory it was something like
"especially when the one you love stabs you repeatedly".
As a gift to you I send you my photo of my work shirt in 2012.
Reply #10 of 11 posted 15 JAN 16 by hmfusr
I think my rose may well be Cramoisi Supérieur, or at least one of the roses that is sold as that. There are several images of that rose on hmf that it resembles strongly in bloom, foliage and habit.

Also, my rose had one season of being extremely double, then it reverted to its usual form, so I know that petal numbers vary according to factors other than heredity.
Reply #12 of 11 posted 16 JAN 16 by Patricia Routley
I will reply further in "Camnethan Cherry Red"
Discussion id : 80-098
most recent 23 AUG 14 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 23 AUG 14 by CybeRose
Conard & Jones: New Floral Guide - 1920
Burbank. One of Luther Burbank’s productions and an excellent Rose. Flowers 3 to 3 1/2 inches across, double and sweet; bright rose-pink, shading to silver-rose. Almost identical with the famous, continuous-blooming Beauty of Rosemawr.
Discussion id : 72-022
most recent 31 MAY 13 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 31 MAY 13 by hmfusr
In its first year of life here [USDA zone 9a], Beauty Of Rosmawr has not been without blooms from the beginning of October until now, the day before winter, with more buds forming and no sign of deceleration yet.
The plant went in last mid-August and is now 9 months old. It responds very fast to any extra nourishment given it in case of slight deficiency and has attained a height of 1.6m - about 5' 6"- in heavy grey clay soil under the east eaves of the house and partly shaded by a liquidamber in summer. Protected from the searing afternoon sun there, Beauty of Rosmawr showed no change of disposition through the worst of the heat and dry of our fairly brutal summer [all the young roses were watered]. So far it has shown no sign of blackspot, but there have been hints of powdery mildew as the weather has got cooler and moister. A mixture of potassium bicarbonate [‘Eco-fungicide’], olive oil, dishwashing liquid and water stopped that in its tracks.

The blooms bend their narrow, smooth stems over and so bow their heads and look like fluted bells with their thin, flimsy petals, almost all of which fall off when the bloom is spent. The perfume scents the area around the front verandah.

It has an airy, gently branching habit. This, coupled with the small, smooth, semi-matte foliage and the blooms' moderate proportions of 7-8cm [nearly 3 inches] broad, makes for a delicately lovely effect that reminds me of Mutabilis yet is here less dense. I'd love to put in a whole row of this rose, with blue lavender under it to harmonise with the purplish- magenta blooms, and some kind of tallish thin biannuals or similar with small white to mid-pink blooms. It would look like stemless spangles of different colours dancing above clouds.

If this were the only rose I had, I’d still be completely delighted. 50 times a day I’m grateful for its existence. Photos don’t do it justice at all.
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