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Discussion id : 68-403
most recent 26 JUL 17 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 24 NOV 12 by Jay-Jay
The description states shade tolerant, but in my garden it almost doesn't grow or bloom at a shady spot.
Others Like Tuscany, Rose de Rescht, Apothecary Rose, William Lobb and the Centifolia's do well at that same spot.
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Reply #1 of 10 posted 25 JUL 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Thank you. One person mentioned that the Apothecary Rose bloomed in less than 3 hours of sun .. I'm shopping for roses in partial shade.
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Reply #2 of 10 posted 25 JUL 17 by Jay-Jay
Try Souvenir du Docteur Jamain! And as a climber Mme Alfred Carrière.
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Reply #3 of 10 posted 25 JUL 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Jay-jay: Thank you, I like dark-red color roses (look good against my white house). I'm adding your info. to the long-list of shade-tolerant roses in my JOURNAL entry. Like me, so many people in HMF also ask for shade-tolerant roses, so I put them in the below link:

https://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/guest.php?tab=42
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Reply #5 of 10 posted 25 JUL 17 by Jay-Jay
You're welcome.
The scent of the kind Docteur is to die for!!!
And almost thornless!!!
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Reply #4 of 10 posted 25 JUL 17 by Andrew from Dolton
'Mme Alfred Carrière' has hardly any thorns as well.
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Reply #6 of 10 posted 25 JUL 17 by Jay-Jay
Yup... but those she has, can/might surprise and grab one while pruning or training.
And a good uncommon scent too, like elder-blossom.
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Reply #7 of 10 posted 25 JUL 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
Yes, the big rose can really stab me. Shade-tolerant Sharifa Asma is tiny as own-root, it's prickly but never poke me. Yesterday I fluff up my shady & pH near 8 clay with pine-bark shavings (pH 4), that's sold at Pet Section at Walmart .. used to line rabbit's cage. Small & yellowish pine-shavings is fantastic in breaking up rock-hard-clay, along with gypsum (17% to 21% sulfur). I use the tiny-granules gypsum, which is more acidic.

Recently I moved 2 roses into 4 hours of morning sun only: Comte de Chambord (fried in hot sun). And James Galway. After moving, Comte is wilting in clay & gypsum, but James Galway is perky in fluffy soil (clay with pine-shavings & gypsum).
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Reply #8 of 10 posted 25 JUL 17 by Lavenderlace
Straw, does your James Galway have any fragrance? It's a beautiful rose!
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Reply #9 of 10 posted 25 JUL 17 by StrawChicago Alkaline clay 5a
It's in buds now (bought end of June as gallon-own-root) .. will let you know later.
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Reply #10 of 10 posted 26 JUL 17 by Lavenderlace
Thanks!
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Discussion id : 83-434
most recent 26 FEB 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 26 FEB 15 by CybeRose
Gardeners' Chronicle p. 141 (Sept 10, 1921)
Rose Dresden China.--A distinctly good China Rose of large size and great freedom of flowering. The flowers, which are born in large flattish trusses, are of cardinal red colour paling to a delicate blush pink in the centre. Shown by Mr. George Paul.
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Discussion id : 83-432
most recent 26 FEB 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 26 FEB 15 by CybeRose
Journal of the Royal Horticultural Society (1922) p. lxxx
To Rose 'Dresden China' (votes 19 for), from Messrs. G. Paul, Cheshunt. A very free-flowering, sweetly scented China rose of moderate size and a pleasing carmine-rose colour.
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Discussion id : 83-430
most recent 26 FEB 15 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 26 FEB 15 by CybeRose
Gardeners' Chronicle p. 173
Oct 1, 1921
A.C.B.

New China Roses are not frequently seen at the R.H.S. meetings, nor at the shows of the National Rose Society, so it was somewhat of a surprise that two new varieties of distinct merit were on view at Vincent Square on September 6 and 7 last. Dresden China, which was illustrated in The Gardeners' Chronicle of the following week (Fig. 60), received an Award of Merit. The illustration gives a capital impression of its floriferousness, but it of necessign could give no idea of the charm of its colouring. The delicate blush pink in the centre gradually becomes deeper outwards until at the margin the flower is of a dark cardinal red colour. This rich colour also suffuses the buds and the outer surfaces of the petals. Added to this charm of colouring is that of a delicate fragrance.

Shown by Messrs. Paul and Son
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