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'C-04' rose Reviews & Comments
most recent 26 MAR 15  
RoseC-04
Initial post 10 FEB 15 by styrax
The pollen parent is NOT an unnamed seedling, but instead

http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.46331.0
Reply #1 posted 10 FEB 15 by HMF Admin
Thank you for sharing your insight; might we ask how you know this ?
Reply #2 posted 11 FEB 15 by styrax
There is already an HMF listing for Baccara x crested jewel, and according to Ralph Moore's pamphlet on mini moss and crested roses, it was a parent.
Reply #3 posted 11 FEB 15 by HMF Admin
Thank you
Reply #4 posted 11 FEB 15 by styrax
You're welcome!
Reply #5 posted 11 FEB 15 by styrax
The reason why I suggested this was so that the lineage info for the pollen parent would be correct.
Reply #6 posted 11 FEB 15 by Patricia Routley
The pollen parent for 'C-04' (syn 7-82-9) is listed as: Baccará ® (Hybrid Tea, Meilland, 1954) × Crested Jewel.
Do you still have a problem with this?
Reply #7 posted 11 FEB 15 by styrax
Ech, I meant for the pictured listing

I am sure that listing was meant to be the pollen parent of this rose.
Reply #8 posted 11 FEB 15 by Patricia Routley
It is my guess that 'Baccara' x 'Crested Jewel' was picked up in the parentage of another rose (e.g. 'C-04')
While we know that such a rose existed, we don't know if it was actually named. So what do we call it in the HelpMeFind pages? It seems it has been called after the only information we have: 'Baccara' x 'Crested Jewel', so the name and the parentage is the same. Am I on the right track?
Reply #9 posted 26 MAR 15 by styrax
Sorry for the (extremely long!) delay!

If I understand what we are saying, yes you are. The issue probably arose b/c the code name for C04's parent was lost
most recent 30 JAN 15  
RoseC-04
Initial post 30 JAN 15 by styrax
What happened to the cutting listing? Is it to protect people from having to care for this rose? (lol)