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'Sunny South' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 64-316
most recent 16 MAY 12 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 16 MAY 12 by goncmg
Just as everyone says: grows like a weed own root, got a late season band in '11 and already it is nearly as big as a budded rose............the blooms are loose, informal, but there truly IS something almost magical about the color, it is a lively and distinctive pink that just "band" has a nearly 3 foot tall basal on it which is going to explode into a candelabra of blooms..........this one will need to go into the ground here, I can tell it will be too big for a pot............a really happy, thriving, surprisingly distinctive rose, really happy I have it............
Discussion id : 44-030
most recent 26 APR 10 SHOW ALL
Initial post 18 APR 10 by Patricia Routley
Whilst I am reasonably confident of the name of my foundling ‘Sunny South’, there are two references which are niggling at me. In 1930, B. V. Rossi said “being almost sterile, obviates the necessity of continuously removing the seed pods” And Alister Clark himself in 1932 said “it is not weakened by seed setting”. I went out to my bush last evening to check and there are some hips. Not too many, but certainly some. I note Mr. Rossi’s word, “almost” and so will put my doubts out of my mind. Two photos downloaded. I find those early references utterly absorbing. “Sunny South” had an incredible ride.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 26 APR 10 by billy teabag
Patricia - we are indebted to you for all your work making these references (and all the others you add) available through HMF. Thank you!
Do you remember us spotting a potted Sunny South from across a large garden in California? It has a distinctive stamp - something about the colour - the play of pink and lighter petal reverses, the circular bloom and the way the ends of the petals fold back giving the bloom a faceted look. It's not an easy rose to photograph but some of the photos on hmf capture this very well.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 26 APR 10 by Patricia Routley
Billy - you are a dear lady. It is so nice to get thanks. Putting the references to the Australian roses on HelpMeFind was something that I could do, and I am so happy to share it. But the one to really thank is HelpMeFind for making the facility available to us all.

For once, I don't remember that Californian 'Sunny South', but I know what you mean by the "faceted look". I think this is best shown in the wonderful painting by Earnest Buckmaster.
Co-incidentally, just yesterday I had sent off my 500 words on a rose to my tiny local paper and I chose to feature 'Sunny South'. I'll share that too:

Rob and I travelled up and down the South West highway for many years and I had often noticed a tall rose bush at the old school site at Yornup. In 2000 I stopped and looked around. There were three roses. The southern one was a thorny old red hybrid tea, the middle was the tall bush, and the northern one was the rootstock rose ‘Manetti’. Later, only the tall bush struck for me.

It did not take me too many years to realise that this was the famous ‘Sunny South’ that Alister Clark had bred in Victoria in 1918. It is a distinctive rose with about 18 petals. They are light pink paling slightly in the center and they open widely to show the stamens. The squarish petals are arranged at different levels, so the end effect is of a wavy-petalled rose. It is a simple and charming flower and once seen, it is never forgotten. The other dead give-away to ‘Sunny South’ is its tall growth, up to 8 feet high and I think the original bush at Yornup is probably 10 feet. It is still growing there, blooming and waving happily at passing cars – no water, no ferty, no pruning – for at least 26 years now, for the little Yornup school, which opened in 1929 was closed in 1984 and relocated to Bridgetown in 1996 in anticipation of the construction of a heritage precinct which never eventuated. Aaagh – the irony of it all. Have a look for this old heritage rose the next time you pass. It is on the western side of the highway and just north of Yornup, opposite the hall.

The breeder Alister Clark left his records book out in the garden in later life, but for once, we actually know the parentage of ‘Sunny South’ because he wrote in the 1928 Australian Rose Annual “I have found Herr Peter Lambert’s ‘Gustav Grunerwald’ a fine seed parent and using the pollen of ‘Betty Berkeley’ on it I got ‘Sunny South’, one of the few roses in my garden that I would not like to alter in any one way”.

Alister “gave” this rose to the Rose Society of Victoria and for every rose that was sold, the profits went into the Society’s coffers. It was promoted as a hedge rose and one had to plant a lot of them to make a hedge, so the Rose Society made a mint of money from it. For me it seems too sparsely wooded to make a hedge, even closely planted. But it was very popular in its day and went all around the world.

One of the pictures here is of a painting by Earnest Buckmaster who won the 1932 Archibald Prize. I am not sure if the painting was dated but a friend saw it in the Beverley Art Gallery in the Railway Station in 2009. I would be very happy to have that painting in my house, but I will have to console myself with the actual 1918 rose.

[later edit. photo of painting removed just in case the artist objected]
Reply #3 of 3 posted 26 APR 10 by billy teabag
Yes - thank you HMF!
Great piece about 'Sunny South' Patricia - and what a marvellous painting of the rose.
Discussion id : 42-589
most recent 21 FEB 10 HIDE POSTS
Initial post 19 FEB 10 by edalweber
Basically a trouble free plant.Grows very well on own roots. No disease problems.Extremely vigorous. Highly recommended for the South. Available from Roses Unlimited.
Reply #1 of 3 posted 19 FEB 10 by Patricia Routley
Agree. I took cuttings in 2000 from the old school site in Yornup, Western Australia, of an old rose which turned out to be ‘Sunny South’. The school was relocated to Bridgetown in 1996 in anticipation of the construction of a heritage precinct which never eventuated. Ironically, the heritage rose still stands resolute in the empty school grounds, never fed, never watered, but still smiling and flowering at passing cars.
Reply #2 of 3 posted 21 FEB 10 by billy teabag
How tall would you say the old Yornup 'Sunny South' is Patricia?
Reply #3 of 3 posted 21 FEB 10 by Patricia Routley
Uuum... I haven't passed by there in a long time, but I would say 8 or 9 feet high.
Here is my ten year old clone of it, on its own roots. Mine is 8 feet - about (snake tracks in the dust nearby!)
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